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   Message 163,330 of 164,974   
   RonB to CrudeSausage   
   Re: (OT) Trump's Venezuelan horse crap   
   12 Jan 26 07:26:50   
   
   From: ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com   
      
   On 2026-01-11, CrudeSausage  wrote:   
   > On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 23:44:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2026-01-10, CrudeSausage  wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 10:38:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2026-01-10, rbowman  wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 08:27:24 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> From a Catholic point of view this is *not* a "just war." (Long.)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> https://catholiccharities.org/wp-content/uploads/Why-Catholic-   
   >>> Charities-   
   >>>>> welcomes-the-stranger.pdf   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> At one time I thought Catholic Charities was one of the more   
   >>>>> worthwhile organizations. I cannot argue with their interpretation of   
   >>>>> social doctrine nor will I support it.  The Catholics are not alone   
   >>>>> among the religious groups working to destroy the culture they were   
   >>>>> built on.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yeah, but this link has nothing to do with the essay on a Just War   
   >>>> that I posted. The essay was written by a traditional Catholic who   
   >>>> actually believes in Catholic doctrine. His arguments against the   
   >>>> insane crap the warmongering moron Trump pulled off in Venezuela were   
   >>>> strong and to the point.   
   >>>   
   >>> I notice that the Catholic author believes that the need to help others   
   >>> is shared among all faiths. I'm sorry but I know enough about   
   >>> muhammedans and their beliefs to know that they have no interest in   
   >>> helping anyone who isn't a muhammedan. They see Christians as dogs, the   
   >>> same way that Jews do.   
   >>   
   >> I'm not an ecumenist and I'm not defending the "social gospel" and   
   >> ecumenist policies of the Modernist, Vatican II Church. But *again* this   
   >> has ZERO to do with what I posted about Catholic teaching on Just Wars.   
   >> And how the warmonger moron Trump has zero justification for his   
   >> actions. (Now he's even talking about stealing Greenland again.)   
   >>   
   >> I'm guessing no one read what I posted (admittedly very long) but had   
   >> they done so, they wouldn't be conflating the current Vatican II "social   
   >> gospel" with traditional Catholic teaching on just wars.   
   >   
   > As it relates to Greenland, I see no issue with Trump wanting to buy the   
   > land since that's what they did with Alaska and Louisiana anyway. As far   
   > as I know, Greenland is completely dependent on Denmark and I can imagine   
   > why the country would be willing to rid itself of the land. As for   
   > Venezuela, I have no sympathy for Maduro and his cronies. Trump didn't   
   > declare a war, he merely used his powers to get rid of a regime that was   
   > definitely causing issues for Americans through the importation of drugs.   
   > Additionally, it was selling oil at a significant loss and doing so was   
   > only benefiting the Communist cronies themselves, not the Venezuelan   
   > people. Considering how Venezuelans themselves unanimously celebrated   
   > Trump's action, I see no reason to denounce Trump at all. A full scale war   
   > would have been another matter, especially since the administration would   
   > have needed Congress to agree. However, we all know that the Democrats   
   > would have gladly taken the side of any murderous tyrant rather than   
   > Trump, so this was the only action he could take.   
      
   He's not talking about buying it, he's talking about stealing it. He wants it   
   for its natural resources, which I'm guessing is why Denmark still wants it.   
      
   As for Venezuela, the United States has no right to do what they did. That   
   was the point of my post. This has no grounds to be a "just war." None.   
   Trump's claim that Venezuela was a huge importer of illegal drugs into the   
   United States (even claiming Maduro was the "head" of some organization) is   
   pure bullshit. It was a pretense to steal Venezuela's oil by installing a   
   compliant government. Almost every country in South America that tried to   
   break away from America's greedy corporate control has suffered a CIA   
   directed coup. Digusting. And the United States claims to promote   
   "democracy" over the world. What lying bullshit.   
      
   And if you want to talk about murderous tyrants, look at Trump. The recent   
   illegal Venezuelan "military action" killed at least 40 Venezuelans, but   
   he's targeted Iran's leaders also — even luring one in with the pretense of   
   peace negotiations, than murdering him as he arrived in Iraq.   
      
   Trump is a worthless, greedy, narcissistic son of a bitch and a Bibi   
   NutYahoo butt leach. I'm sick of this worthless piece of crap.   
      
   And, no, the Venezuelans did NOT unanimously celebrate Trump's theft of   
   their natural resources. As a matter of fact the new Venezuelan government   
   (including the opposition) demanded that Maduro be returned to Venezuela.   
   (These "communists" apparently believe in International Law, unlike Trump.)   
   I thought you were savvy enough to separate reality from the bullshit spewed   
   by the MSM.   
      
   BTW, I "read" that Denmark has figured out to get Trump to quit talking   
   about Greenland. They're going to rename it "Epstein's Island."   
      
   --   
   "Not just stupid... Trump stupid."   
      
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