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   CrudeSausage to -hh   
   Re: (OT) Trump's Venezuelan horse crap   
   12 Jan 26 13:37:56   
   
   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 16:01:26 -0500, -hh wrote:   
      
   > On 1/11/26 07:57, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >> ...   
   >>   
   >> As it relates to Greenland, I see no issue with Trump wanting to buy   
   >> the land since that's what they did with Alaska and Louisiana anyway.   
   >   
   > A sale requires having two willing parties.   
   >   
   > In the case of Louisiana, Napoleon in France was racking up huge war   
   > expenses and needed cash for their ambition to conquer all of Europe.   
   > Initially, the US was looking to buy basically just New Orleans but   
   > France offered a lot more at a great price.   
   >   
   > For Alaska, Russia saw it as a harsh backwater that lacked resources   
   > that wasn't making any money, plus risks of military costs (hard to   
   > defend; not worth defending economically; potential local domestic   
   > population issues), so they were happy (at the time) to find a buyer.   
   >   
   >   
   >> As far as I know, Greenland is completely dependent on Denmark and I   
   >> can imagine why the country would be willing to rid itself of the land.   
   >   
   > Doesn't really matter, because Denmark has said "Not For Sale".   
      
   That doesn't mean that they can't be convinced to sell anyway. The land is   
   of great interest whereas for the Danes, it's just another piece of land   
   that they need to operate to great expense.   
      
   >> As for Venezuela, I have no sympathy for Maduro and his cronies. Trump   
   >> didn't declare a war, he merely used his powers to get rid of a regime   
   >> that was definitely causing issues for Americans through the   
   >> importation of drugs.   
   >   
   > Questionable legality, though.  And the "machine gun" charge is a joke.   
   >   
   >   
   >> Additionally, it was selling oil at a significant loss and doing so was   
   >> only benefiting the Communist cronies themselves, not the Venezuelan   
   >> people.   
   >   
   > It wasn't really any different when Stadard Oil was the one doing it.   
      
   I imagine that while Standard Oil was there and the operation wasn't   
   nationalized, it only made sense that it wouldn't benefit the Venezuelan   
   people. After all, it wasn't yet considered a national resource. However,   
   once you nationalize a resource, there is an expectation and a requirement   
   to have any profits be returned to the people.   
      
   >> Considering how Venezuelans themselves unanimously celebrated Trump's   
   >> action, I see no reason to denounce Trump at all. A full scale war   
   >> would have been another matter, especially since the administration   
   >> would have needed Congress to agree. However, we all know that the   
   >> Democrats would have gladly taken the side of any murderous tyrant   
   >> rather than Trump, so this was the only action he could take.   
   >   
   > Time will tell, particularly the part where this action has destabilized   
   > Taiwan and our geopolitical & fiscal interests there.   
      
   Taiwan will be destabilized regardless of what happens. The moment the   
   globalists decided that they would invest so heavily in Communist China   
   when Taiwan is where the real Chinese people reside, it was just a matter   
   of time before the powerful one would seek to swallow the other. It pains   
   me to know that those people who truly defended China had to lose to a   
   demon like Mao and then escape to Taiwan.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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