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|    CrudeSausage to -hh    |
|    Re: (OT) Trump's Venezuelan horse crap    |
|    13 Jan 26 00:26:31    |
      From: crude@sausa.ge              On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 13:05:48 -0500, -hh wrote:              > On 1/12/26 08:37, CrudeSausage wrote:       >> On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 16:01:26 -0500, -hh wrote:       >>       >>> On 1/11/26 07:57, CrudeSausage wrote:       >>>> ...       >>>>       >>>> As it relates to Greenland, I see no issue with Trump wanting to buy       >>>> the land since that's what they did with Alaska and Louisiana anyway.       >>>       >>> A sale requires having two willing parties.       >>>       >>> In the case of Louisiana, Napoleon in France was racking up huge war       >>> expenses and needed cash for their ambition to conquer all of Europe.       >>> Initially, the US was looking to buy basically just New Orleans but       >>> France offered a lot more at a great price.       >>>       >>> For Alaska, Russia saw it as a harsh backwater that lacked resources       >>> that wasn't making any money, plus risks of military costs (hard to       >>> defend; not worth defending economically; potential local domestic       >>> population issues), so they were happy (at the time) to find a buyer.       >>>       >>>       >>>> As far as I know, Greenland is completely dependent on Denmark and I       >>>> can imagine why the country would be willing to rid itself of the       >>>> land.       >>>       >>> Doesn't really matter, because Denmark has said "Not For Sale".       >>       >> That doesn't mean that they can't be convinced to sell anyway. The land       >> is of great interest whereas for the Danes, it's just another piece of       >> land that they need to operate to great expense.       >       > But if it so obviously rich in resources, then why wouldn't Denmark be       > interested in keeping that wealth for themselves?       >       > AFAIC, this is the clue that the motivation here is likely combination       > of a further violation of the Emoluments Clause with doing Putin's       > bidding to try to break up NATO - neither of which are beneficial to US       > citizens.              The motivation might also be the fact that Greenland is currently       surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships, at least according to Trump. I       don't know if it's true because even if it were, the Russians, the Chinese       and the obsolete media would deny it.              >>>> As for Venezuela, I have no sympathy for Maduro and his cronies.       >>>> Trump didn't declare a war, he merely used his powers to get rid of a       >>>> regime that was definitely causing issues for Americans through the       >>>> importation of drugs.       >>>       >>> Questionable legality, though. And the "machine gun" charge is a       >>> joke.       >>>       >>>       >>>> Additionally, it was selling oil at a significant loss and doing so       >>>> was only benefiting the Communist cronies themselves, not the       >>>> Venezuelan people.       >>>       >>> It wasn't really any different when Standard Oil was the one doing it.       >>       >> I imagine that while Standard Oil was there and the operation wasn't       >> nationalized, it only made sense that it wouldn't benefit the       >> Venezuelan people. After all, it wasn't yet considered a national       >> resource. However, once you nationalize a resource, there is an       >> expectation and a requirement to have any profits be returned to the       >> people.       >       > But the current plan isn't another nationalization of those resources:       > it is to enable private US corporations to 'rape, pillage & burn.'              We will see what the result of their action is in a few years. I do expect       American companies to go in there, but I doubt that they will do so       without compensating Venezuela.              >>>> Considering how Venezuelans themselves unanimously celebrated Trump's       >>>> action, I see no reason to denounce Trump at all. A full scale war       >>>> would have been another matter, especially since the administration       >>>> would have needed Congress to agree. However, we all know that the       >>>> Democrats would have gladly taken the side of any murderous tyrant       >>>> rather than Trump, so this was the only action he could take.       >>>       >>> Time will tell, particularly the part where this action has       >>> destabilized Taiwan and our geopolitical & fiscal interests there.       >>       >> Taiwan will be destabilized regardless of what happens. The moment the       >> globalists decided that they would invest so heavily in Communist China       >> when Taiwan is where the real Chinese people reside, it was just a       >> matter of time before the powerful one would seek to swallow the other.       >> It pains me to know that those people who truly defended China had to       >> lose to a demon like Mao and then escape to Taiwan.       >       > Yes, there's a lot of instability over the decades, but the basic point       > here is that these actions have made it substantially worse, not better.              I would blame the Chinese, not the West for any kind of worsening.              --       CrudeSausage       John 14:6       Pop_OS!              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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