From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 13 Jan 2026 07:15:32 GMT, rbowman wrote:   
      
   > On 13 Jan 2026 00:26:31 GMT, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >   
   >> The motivation might also be the fact that Greenland is currently   
   >> surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships, at least according to Trump. I   
   >> don't know if it's true because even if it were, the Russians, the   
   >> Chinese and the obsolete media would deny it.   
   >   
   > I don't know if surrounded is correct but Russia certainly has an   
   > interest in the area.   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_policy_of_Russia   
   >   
   > China's involvement is more tenuous.   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_policy_of_China   
      
   Here in Canada, we already know that Russia is in our northern parts,   
   poking around. It's part of why the government was forced to invest in new   
   ships to counter the threat. If they're here, there is no reason to   
   believe that they aren't in Greenland as well.   
      
   > "We can see the Arctic from here" isn't too convincing.   
   >   
   > https://shippingtelegraph.com/shipsale-news/danish-icebreakers-   
   danbjoern-   
   > and-isbjoern-sold-for-recycling/   
   >   
   > Sweden and Finland are talking about building an icebreaker. Denmark was   
   > modernizing their fleet but mostly focused on defending the home waters,   
   > They may pivot more toward the Arctic but as Trump might phrase it "They   
   > got nothing!"   
   >   
   > The US and Canada haven't been maintaining theirs very well but at least   
   > they have something that can be made seaworthy in the short term.   
      
   Canada's government can't be asked to maintain anything, to be honest. We   
   have tons of money to invest in projects that go nowhere like lithium   
   battery plants or to send to financial pits like Ukraine, but actually   
   maintaining a military escapes us. If Trump wanted to declare war on us,   
   I'd be surprised if we lasted more than a few days.   
      
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