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   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 01:59:33 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:   
      
   > CrudeSausage    
   > news:69664e9d$0$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Tue, 13 Jan 2026 13:54:37   
   > GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 03:37:10 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 21:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> I'm unaware of vista being a rewrite.   
   >>>   
   >>> It’s certainly a failed attempt at a rewrite. Microsoft wanted to   
   >>> prove the value of its Dotnet technology by rewriting large parts of   
   >>> the lower levels of Windows to use it. Too late, they discovered that   
   >>> their wonderful “managed runtime” led to absolutely horrible   
   >>> performance, so they had to rip it all out and start again (the   
   >>> infamous “Longhorn Reset” you may have heard about).   
   >>>   
   >>> This added maybe two years to the development time. And then they had   
   >>> to rush the rework after that to avoid the whole project getting even   
   >>> later. And so Vista turned into the mess we remember on its release.   
   >>   
   >> I've said it before but I was part of testing that rewrite. The entire   
   >> development of Vista was a complete mess and the operating system was   
   >> barely usable. Just about anything caused a crash so submitting bug   
   >> reports was rather easy. I was a nice enough Microsoft fan that I   
   >> didn't mind the testing and the submitting, and I was happy that they   
   >> rewarded me with an Ultimate ISO of Vista (and later an Ultimate ISO of   
   >> 7). When they informed us that Vista was releasing to manufacturers, I   
   >> was shocked because it was nowhere near stable.   
   >   
   > :) I had all of that via technet. It spoiled several of us rotten. The   
   > first time I had to do an onsite to service a vista machine, I was   
   > gobsmacked that it was actually in the wild in it's state. It reminded   
   > me of WindowsME so much in terms of instability. It was so bad, it   
   > reminded me of a hilarious old joke in the trades. "It compiled? Ship   
   > the damn thing!"    
      
   The RTM itself was not that bad, to be honest. It was radically more   
   stable than what us beta testers were using at the very least. I didn't   
   think it was great, but I ran it for years without feeling like it was a   
   compromise. 7 was much better though, in every possible way.   
      
      
      
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