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   vallor to DFS   
   Re: The Essential Difference   
   17 Jan 26 03:39:36   
   
   From: vallor@vallor.earth   
      
   At Fri, 16 Jan 2026 21:49:22 -0500, DFS  wrote:   
      
   > On 1/16/2026 10:22 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   > > You should take a look at what the Start menu looks like in Linux Mint   
   > > 22.3. It's basically Windows 7 without all of the ads and needless garbage   
   > > Microsoft adds to ruin the experience of using our computer.   
   >   
   >   
   > The Win11 Start Menu has a 'Microsoft Store' icon, and if you play   
   > Casual Games you'll see 3rd party ads/videos every so often.  But that's   
   > all the advertising I've ever seen in Windows 11.   
   >   
   > I only consider MS Store an ad because it sells MS and 3rd party   
   > products for a price.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Like I said, it's just a matter of time before you become an advocate   
   > > yourself.   
   >   
   > Keep hope alive!   
   >   
   > The ONLY reasons I would ever switch are: boredom, a new tinkertoy, or   
   > to learn Linux more in depth   
   >   
   >   
   > I have an in-class exercise for you:   
   >   
   > What file manager do you use on Linux/Pop_OS!?  cosmic-files, thunar,   
   > Dolphin, Nautilus?   
   >   
   > Whatever it is, open 3 or more instances/windows of it (not 3 tabs in   
   > the same window), arrange the windows left to right on your desktop, and   
   > navigate to the same directory in all instances.   
   >   
   > In any instance, rename a directory (usually F2 to edit) and hit Enter.   
   > What happens to the directory name shown in the other instances?   
   >   
   > Try other file / directory operations:   
   >   * create a new file   
   >   * delete a file   
   >   * create a new folder   
   >   * delete a folder   
   >   * using a 3rd party app, modify a file and look for a change to the   
   >     'date modified' timestamp   
   >   
   > On Windows, the effects of file and folder operations executed in - or   
   > outside - any open instance of the file manager are immediately or very   
   > quickly reflected in all open instances of the file manager.   
   >   
   > I did all these tests with 5 instances of File Explorer open (and used   
   > Windows Terminal, Excel 2003, Notepad++, Python and SQLite to make file   
   > / folder changes), and Windows got an A+++ on every test.   
   >   
   > Operation                            Change seen in 5 File Explorers   
   > ----------------------------------   --------------------------------   
   > * file and folder creation and   
   >    deletion using File Explorer          instantaneous   
   > * create / delete file or folder   
   >    using Windows Terminal                ~1 second   
   > * Python script to bulk-rename   
   >    210 folders                           ~1 second   
   > * delete table from SQLite database   
   >    using the SQLite Studio app           ~1 second   
   > * save new Excel spreadsheet            ~1 second   
   > * modify existing Excel spreadsheet     ~1 second   
   > * save new text file with Notepad++     ~1 second   
   >   
   > You can see the type of 3rd party app doesn't matter - after the app   
   > commits the file change, Windows takes about 1 second to recognize the   
   > file change and update the screen.  What's interesting is all 5   
   > instances of File Explorer show the new information concurrently - if it   
   > is updating consecutively it happens too fast for your eyes to see.   
   >   
   > screen looked like this during my testing   
   > https://imgur.com/ONjFfQr   
   >   
   >   
   > I'm curious if your GuhNoo file manager works the same, or if you have   
   > to hit F5 (or whatever) to refresh it to show the updated information.   
   > If so, do you have to refresh each open instance, one by one?   
      
   Using Thunar, updates immediately.   
      
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