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   candycanearter07 to CrudeSausage   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   25 Jan 26 00:50:09   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid   
      
   CrudeSausage  wrote at 16:37 this Friday (GMT):   
   > On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 16:10:07 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:   
   >   
   >> CrudeSausage  wrote at 23:14 this Tuesday (GMT):   
   >>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:10:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> CrudeSausage  wrote at 17:47 this Tuesday (GMT):   
   >>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:39:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> So say you side-load a Mac app.  You usually get a .dmg which you   
   >>>>>> mount,   
   >>>>>> then drag the app folder on top of the handy alias for the system   
   >>>>>> app folders.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That's fine, but what if you want to uninstall?  There doesn't seem   
   >>>>>> to be much of a package manager involved.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> But on Linux, apps are in packages that are tracked by the system.   
   >>>>>> When you uninstall an app on Linux, the default is to take away the   
   >>>>>> app without touching config files -- but with the apt/dpkg "purge"   
   >>>>>> option, the package system will clean out the config files, too.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> (Not user dot-files though, those are yours to keep.)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Generally, even after I purge an application in Linux, its settings   
   >>>>> remain. You have to manually delete the folder in .config the same   
   >>>>> way you would in any other operating system. Of course, it's a lot   
   >>>>> easier to do on Linux since those folders are exactly where you would   
   >>>>> expect them to be, not lost in the registry or some obscure folder.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Unfortunately, theres a LOT of applications that dump everything in   
   >>>> the home folder instead of just using the prebuilt stuff. Still not   
   >>>> HARD to find, but tis very annoying.   
   >>>> My person home folder has over 200 folders.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't have that many, but at least I know that the ones I do have   
   >>> were created by me. I never found anything as annoying as every Windows   
   >>> program deciding that it would create a folder for itself in your "My   
   >>> Documents" folder. My understanding was that this was supposed to be a   
   >>> personal folder; why programs were doing anything in there was beyond   
   >>> me. It bothered me enough that I made an actual "Personal" folder   
   >>> inside of "My Documents" just to avoid the garbage.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> A lot of programs, especially ones originally written for Windows, tend   
   >> to do that, at least for me.   
   >   
   > It's a common behaviour, and one that annoyed me to no end. The very fact   
   > that the folder is called "_My_ Documents" should mean that third-party   
   > applications would stay out of it. There should be a directory in which   
   > applications can create a subdirectory, not interfere with the user's own   
   > folders.   
      
      
   I think %appdata% was sorta supposed to be that, but I guess devs   
   figured it was too scary for the end user so they use the Docs folder.   
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