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   Sun, 25 Jan 2026 11:59:51 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
      
   > Just which models were these?  Are they still being sold new, or are   
   > they discontinued?   
      
   Are you unable to look anything up for yourself? It's well documented. Well   
   known. Which makes it very easy to find with your favorite search engine.   
   Plus, I already shared supporting information concerning this issue in a   
   previous reply to Alan.   
      
   >>> How does a socket protect against that, exactly?   
   >>   
   >> I've never said that a socket would protect you from anything,   
   >> specifically, Alan.   
   >   
   > Which means that you also know that it would not, since a socket's   
   > function is to be an electrical conduit.   
      
   A socket has the advantage that the component or device connected via it can   
   be replaced if necessary. without having to make use of a soldering iron or   
   hot air. I made no commentary with regard to any form of protection that a   
   socket would offer you vs soldered on. I don't see the point in this side   
   discussion?   
      
   >> Alan, I haven't seen your response to my question about your knowledge   
   >> of electronics at the component level. Have I simply missed your   
   >> response or have you been neglecting to provide one?   
   >   
   > Likewise, we've seen criticisms of this failure mode which allude to it   
   > being specific and unique only to Apple hardware, but no one has said   
   > that it actually is specific and unique only to Apple hardware: why have   
   > these criticisms been so deliberately vague on this point?   
      
   Which failure mode specifically are you writing about this time? The voltage   
   spike or the fact that when the soldered internal SSD dies on a modern mac   
   the computer becomes a paperweight? Both statements are true.   
      
   Alan was previously under the impression that when the internal drive dies   
   he can still make use of the computer. That he could use external media to   
   boot up and operate the computer. That's not the case. When that drive dies   
   for a variety of possible reasons the computer is effectively done. You can   
   either replace the logic board or the entire machine, but, you won't be   
   using that one again as it is once that drive goes out.   
      
   The internal drive dying and turning the machine into a brick is a known   
   issue with Apple products. Specifically with Apple products. PC's don't have   
   this problem. Even a cheap one with a soldered SSD like is found in Apples   
   can still be operated from external media. The apple, ehh, not so much, no.   
      
      
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