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Sun, 25 Jan 2026 14:07:04 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 00:49:35 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:
> I get the impression that you would have been able to fix the 2017 MacBook
> Air I spilled coffee on. Of course, that thing was so slow that I didn't
> even see the point of fixing it.
I may have been able to fix it. It would have depended on what was in the
coffee and where it went once it entered the machine. Depending on the
substance the damage can be unrepairable.
>> I typically don't buy the extended coverage warranties for my own
>> purchases. I will if it's a gift or something. I consider them to be a
>> waste of fundage for the most part if i'm purchasing it for myself.
>
> That's actually very nice of you to do, to buy an extended warranty for a
> gifted purchase. I can only hope that the recipient appreciates you going
> out of your way.
I do that so I don't have to fix if they break it.
I've got an odd duck for the bench. It's a fancy remote controlled electric
heater bought from Kohls. It stopped providing heat. No matter the setting
the PTC sections don't come on. I don't believe they are getting power. It
does have four wires going to it that I can see from the back so it's a
multi heat element. I suspect the temp sense circuit has an issue - while
it's possible the relays (I assume it's using relays to control the heat
element and not triacs) could be at fault; it's probably using more than one
and it's not that likely that they'd all be bad at the same time.
I'll tear into it soon and see what's going on.
> This is an issue I've always found annoying in both Android and MacOS
> actually, if I'm reading this right. The idea that an application is made,
> but only for this or that version of the operating system. If your version
> is too old or too new, too bad.
It's very frustrating. I could have had this issue resolved already if the
app would load on any of my Android devices. Oddly enough this laptop I'm
using is willing to grab the software for me - but as far as I know, it
doesn't have any internal hardware to read/write nfc/rfid cards...I'd have
to get an external device to do that. As far as I know.
> However, if you _do_ reinstall your operating system, you'll never be
> allowed to install the software you were using. That just sucks.
That's very annoying.
> It is pure retardation and yet more evidence that Apple has no desire to
> allow individuals to repair their hardware, regardless of what kind of
> repairability rating they might get whenever they release a new machine.
When I was a kid, Apple wasn't all about making repairs impossible. I've
fixed more than one Apple 2 series. Repaired a couple of Mac Classics too.
One of those fuckers bit me good with the high tension wire. LOL! I should
have known better, being as I got hit with a tv set when I was around 5. but,
I must have forgot about the special effect a picture tube has. Stores
electricity like a capacitor. And let's you have it if you screw up. And, I
did.
Oddly enough, I extracted a couple of flyback transformers from a couple of
older monitors to use in a plasma speaker I wanted to build. They run at
much higher frequencies than a car ignition coil - which is what you want if
you want to play music with it. I remembered to be extra careful and ground
that CRT out. Listen for the POP and do it again a couple more times
just to be sure. With a nice sturdy screwdriver that's grounded. Just slide
her under the suction cup and POP (one made more of a kabang sound but hell,
as long as it's discharging to ground and not into me I'm not going to
complain)
> Apple wants you to buy the machine from them, pay for their warranty and
> send it to them directly if ever there's a problem. These are the same
> people who make panels that develop cracks on their own (see the amount of
> cracked screens on eBay for reference), keyboards that break if you use
> them (until they went back to their original design) and bodies that dent
> if you simply look at them wrong. The rule here is that if you buy an
> Apple, make sure that you have a warranty for as long as you use it and
> discard your computer when it's no longer covered.
It's the way of Apple. I'm sure they have their reasons for these design
decisions. But, fuck if I know what those might be. It's not consumer
friendly, imo. It's not repair tech friendly either. While they aren't the
only companies known for pulling this sort of shit, they are one if not the
flagship for it.
>> IMHO, It's an important life skill to take a pieces of metal and join
>> them together. I think everyone should learn how to stick weld at the
>> very least. It comes in handy. And, it's fun! :)
>
> This is the kind of skill that I agree would have been incredibly useful
> for me. Of course, my dad never taught me anything, so it shouldn't be
> surprising that I don't feel comfortable doing such things.
My dad didn't teach me things like this. It's something I'd been wanting to
learn for quite some time. So, I bit the bullet and bought a little welder
after reading reviews on it. At that point, I had funds tied up. I was
committed. My inner voice was like 'okay, this thing has arrived. Now you
need long sleeve FR rated clothing gloves, hood with proper lens, some rods,
and some practice metal. You can't back down now, you've already spent $$ on
this gizmo and you'll have to spend a bit more to actually use it. Er,
safely.
All of my electronics and electrical training had me a bit nervous striking
the first arc up though. So, you've got this ground attached to this piece
of metal. And this other lead is going to the rod. And you're going to touch
this rod to this piece of metal?!? Uhh, this will cause a short circuit.
This thing is set at 100 fucking amps. I don't know how much voltage is
present while it's open circuit or when you close the circuit, but..
uhhh...this is not what you do for electronics or electrical repairs. This
is how you blow stuff up, make more work for yourself and otherwise get hurt
or worse.
Needless to say, I stood as far back as I could when I touched that rod to
the metal piece the first time. lol! I didn't know that I didn't need to
actually touch it, just get close enough and the weld arc will form and you
can begin. I intentionally didn't watch any videos or anything. I wanted to
see if I could get it going on my own before asking for help of any kind.
I'm stubborn like that in some situations.
Even when I made mistakes, I enjoyed what I was doing. And, I learned how to
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