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   Alan to Gremlin   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   29 Jan 26 20:05:33   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-29 19:14, Gremlin wrote:   
   > CrudeSausage  news:697b68d8$9$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com   
   > Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:04:08 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 03:24:14 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:   
   >   
   > [snip snip]   
   >   
   >>> The internal drive dying and turning the machine into a brick is a known   
   >>> issue with Apple products. Specifically with Apple products. PC's don't   
   >>> have this problem. Even a cheap one with a soldered SSD like is found in   
   >>> Apples can still be operated from external media. The apple, ehh, not so   
   >>> much, no.   
   >>   
   >> I would imagine that this is still a problem with more recent Macs. The   
   >> only reason we know about it in the M1s is that MacOS was buggy at their   
   >> time of release and used the storage for swap much too often. In other   
   >> words, it wore out the NVMe prematurely. Apple has since fixed the bug and   
   >> the NVMe doesn't get overused, but there is no reason to believe that the   
   >> same thing won't happen to users who reach the NVMe's TBW with their M2,   
   >> M3, M4 or M5 units.   
   >   
   > The NANDs Apple is using aren't standard. They are a proprietary design.   
   Those   
   > video links I shared previously go into greater detail concerning that as   
   well   
   > as the issues they tend to develop which renders the computer a paperweight.   
   > It's a problem which has not been fixed.   
      
   Show the time stamp in the video where this "proprietary design" is   
   mentioned...   
      
   >   
   >> I'm sure that Anal will find a way to defend this though.   
   >   
   > He seems to be a bit of an Apple fanboy going by the interesting discussion   
   > I've had with the individual so far. I think it's especially cute that he   
   > accuses me of making up stories and otherwise failing to prove what I've been   
   > writing about the issues. I've posted links to videos discussing it, I've   
   also   
   > shared google search results along with the query I used to get them. And a   
   > discussions.apple link. What else must I provide to prove that I'm not   
   writing   
   > stories about this?   
      
   I've never accused you of making up stories.   
      
   >   
   > We know (well some of us anyway) about this because we've seen it in the   
   field.   
   > It's not an issue of over working or over using the drive. There's an issue   
   > with the NANDs Apple opted to use. An issue which hasn't been resolved. The   
   > NANDs die and take the computer down with them.   
      
   You've yet to produce any evidence that his has actually happened.   
      
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