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   Alan to Gremlin   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   30 Jan 26 21:36:09   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-30 20:04, Gremlin wrote:   
   > Alan  news:10liuh9$2aspo$1@dont-email.me Fri, 30 Jan 2026   
   > 18:50:17 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2026-01-30 10:24, -hh wrote:   
   >>>> Alan was previously under the impression that when the internal drive   
   >>>> dies   
   >>>> he can still make use of the computer. That he could use external   
   >>>> media to   
   >>>> boot up and operate the computer. That's not the case.   
   >>>   
   >>> It is no longer the case today, but it used to be true.   
   >>   
   >> Also, he's dishonestly conflating the fact that SSDs have a finite   
   >> number of writes with the "death" of the entire drive.   
   >   
   > I've done nothing of the sort. That's several times now you've made false   
   > accusations towards me, Alan.   
      
   Yes. That is EXACTLY what you have done.   
      
   You've conflated a drive reaching its TBW with death.   
      
   > It takes one NAND to fail and you are out of business. You should review the   
   > video links I've provided several times if nothing else before you make any   
   > further accusations like that towards me. Anyone who has will be able to   
   > determine that you're fucking around at this point. I'm willing to give you   
   > the benefit of the doubt against my better judgement for a bit longer but if   
   > you're going to continue being snit like as you did here, I won't continue   
   > wasting my time attempting to educate you. I've already spent more time than   
   > should be required for a reasonable individual as it is.   
      
   I've asked you repeatedly to link to the timestamps that you think   
   support your arguments.   
      
   >   
   >> When an SSD can no longer be written, it can still be read.   
   >   
   > I didn't state otherwise.   
      
   And yet you've insisted that if a Mac's SSD reaches it's TBW, it will "die"   
      
   >   
   >> And given that the information required for booting needs to be read only   
   >   
   > I'm glad that if nothing else, you've learned what changed with Apple over   
   > five years ago concerning booting from external media. So you won't be half   
   > ass suggesting 'just use an external drive if your internal one fails'   
   > anymore.   
      
   Except you CAN use an external drive UNLESS the WHOLE INTERNAL SSD fails...   
      
   ...which you've never shown to be likely.   
      
   >   
   > It's not a great deal of progress, but, I'll accept it.   
   And since you've incorrectly stated that Apple uses "proprietary" NAND   
   designs, it's almost like you don't know much, isn't it?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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