From: nospam@dfs.com   
      
   On 12/31/2025 8:22 PM, vallor wrote:   
   > At Thu, 1 Jan 2026 01:06:51 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:07:00 -0500, DFS wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 12/13/2025 5:05 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On 04 Dec 2025 02:36:56 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> You act surprised that Windows has a shell.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Apple and Microsoft have spent years, decades, conditioning their   
   >>>> users to be allergic to the command line.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Now, suddenly, Linux has made the command line cool again, and   
   >>>> those two are desperately trying to play catch-up.   
   >>>   
   >>> PowerShell was introduced in 2006.   
   >>   
   >> Are you really suggesting PowerShell is a serious alternative to   
   >> traditional *nix shells?   
   >>   
   >> Nobody would seriously use it that way. Even Windows users wouldn’t   
   >> go that far.   
   >   
   > tbf, it was an interesting experiment.   
      
      
   No, it IS an interesting, useful and powerful command line tool.  Never   
   an experiment.   
      
   They lost their way in 2016 and made it open source and cross platform.   
   What for?   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerShell   
      
      
   I just used it yesterday:   
      
   PS > Get-Service | Format-Table -AutoSize   
      
      
   It's powerful but the language is extremely clunky and offputting.   
   Which is why they included some bash commands in Powershell.   
      
      
      
   > Obviously it wasn't enough, because not only can one get   
   > bash(1) for Windows, Linux is now part of Windows subsystems.   
   >   
   > And you know how much DFS _hates_ that, lol.   
      
   I think WSL is pretty nice.  It's easy to install, and runs well.   
      
   Sure beats dual-booting, for those rare times I want to run something on   
   Linux.   
      
      
   > It's the same DFS that thinks I can't use Excel on my Linux   
   > box.   
      
   For Wine values of "use Excel".   
      
   Glad you said "use", 'cause Excel on Wine is NOT running on Linux.  It's   
   running on the best faux-Windows layer no money can buy.   
      
      
      
   > Sure I can, but why would I want to?   
      
   To open Excel files without introducing the rotgut genes of LibreOffice   
   into them.   
      
      
   > I can use Teams, too, as well as Outlook.  Which I do on very   
   > rare occasion to communicate with the office.   
      
   www.sonic.com - running on Windows since day one.   
      
   Hey, did you ever "diversify" your executives?  Y'all sure were looking   
   lily-White in the past.  Didn't you hear: "Diversity is our strength."?   
      
      
   > (Being all-but-retired has it's perks...)   
   >   
   > Poor DFS -- brain parked in some weird amalgamation of the 1950's   
   > and the 2000's...   
      
   Feb 10 2026 at 6:20pm Eastern Time   
      
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