XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: nuh-uh@nope.com
On 2026-02-10 06:09, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 03:37:56 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:
>
>> Alan news:10lk4ep$2lvee$4@dont-email.me Sat, 31 Jan
>> 2026 05:37:29 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
>>
>>> On 2026-01-29 20:15, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2026-01-29 19:14, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The NANDs Apple is using aren't standard. They are a proprietary
>>>>> design. Those video links I shared previously go into greater detail
>>>>> concerning that as well as the issues they tend to develop which
>>>>> renders the computer a paperweight.
>>>>> It's a problem which has not been fixed.
>>>> ...and you're quite wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Apple uses standard NAND chips sourced from various suppliers.
>>>>
>>>> They do you proprietary CONTROLLER chip designs.
>>>>
>>>> Oops for you, huh?
>>>
>>> Convenient when you chose to stop replying to me...
>>>
>>> ...isn't it?
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> I'm aware of your interest in the game of semantics as well as a few
>> other Snit like qualities you have. with that,
>> We have one snit already and that's more than anyone needs. Unlike Snit,
>> and possibly yourself?, I continue to work for a living and am not on
>> usenet every day. There could be days if not weeks or more between
>> replies.
>> Especially if my job requires me to go out of state. So slow your roll
>> and don't have a PE here. No girl appreciates that, btw. :)
>>
>> Semantics and a few other things are your goto for trolling. The subject
>> change was funny. A very adult thing to do. Especially if you didn't
>> 'win' the arguement. Just so you know though, I never considered this to
>> be an arguement. You were years behind concerning Apple and I've brought
>> you upto speed in so far as what you can/cannot do when the internal SSD
>> dies on you. I wasn't writing about no longer being able to write to it
>> reliably (at all); I was specific in stating when it dies. As in
>> hardware failure dies. When that happens you have a paperweight.
>>
>> For a PC it's almost always no big deal. Replace drive, go on about your
>> day. If the drive is soldered and you have a shorted NAND, remove the
>> NANDS and replace with new if you want; there's no specialized firmware
>> or mating process that has occured making the new chips unable to
>> function on the board. Unlike with Apple. You can't just do that. They
>> don't like keeping things standard/normal. Even if it was originally
>> before they got their hands on it. Pesky semantics. You probably thought
>> you had something there; as you thought you did when you googled 'can I
>> use an external drive to boot my mac' (sure, but, on a modern mac, the
>> internal SSD has to be functional) - that's one hell of a special design
>> decision. That you're required to have a working internal drive in order
>> to boot from an external drive.
>>
>> I've stated this several times, I've supported my statements. Your
>> efforts to ignore them and place conditions on how you will review the
>> evidence or that you don't appreciate the formats provided and demand
>> they be provided in another or it didn't happen in the first place -
>> really doesn't matter. At this point, We're just going in circles here.
>> There's no point or advantage for either of us to do this. It makes
>> about as much sense as -hh did when he brought up capacitors being
>> soldered onto the mainboards of PCs and Mac. Of course they are - and a
>> lot more electronics. They have several possible uses. Quite common
>> components actually. Nothing to do with the subject I was writing about
>> though. I give them a rocking A for effort concerning the troll by doing
>> that though. It was very creative! And not in the least bit sarcastic or
>> made to be insulting. I respect that.
>> It was good.
>>
>> I work on PCs as well, mostly PCs. I've never stated that they were
>> perfect. I've replaced blown components on them too. I've changed the
>> display panels, touchpads, keyboards, power jacks. Soldered SSD drive on
>> some real cheap bastards, as well as the socket style where changing was
>> easy. I'm not sold on the method a lot of them use to actually hold the
>> SSD in place though. I think it's a dumb thing to do. Replaced blown
>> diodes, Mosfets, resistors, etc. The important thing and only reason I
>> even mentioned them is that those components fail on anything and are
>> not that difficult or expensive in many cases to replace. Most
>> importantly, the PCs which had these issues, didn't require many
>> components to be replaced and were all put back in service- they didn't
>> blow up anything MATED or that would otherwise totally screw you. FFS,
>> you could replace the damn CPU if you needed to do so. Lack of
>> proprietary is a good thing.
>>
>> Btw, changing the subject line? C'mon. I know you aren't a total lamer.
>
> I should mention that I recently found out that Apple is not the only
> company soldering NVMes onto the motherboard anymore. Dell decided to
> imitate, and they're having similar problems: computer won't boot, data
> can't be retrieved. Unfortunately, Apple has way too much influence in the
> computing world.
Are they? Are they really having these "problems"?
What's your source?
>
> Going forward, I'll always be checking whether the machine I'm purchasing
> has components which can be removed and replaced. After all, I've had to
> replace the NVMes in my old MSI and the wireless chip in the Zephyrus G14
> I use at home (it was an awful Mediatek MT7921). It makes absolutely no
> sense to have a machine in 2026 the same way it was a bad idea in the late
> 90s.
And you'll be doing that for your smartphone as well, I presume.
:-)
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