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   RonB to CrudeSausage   
   Re: Had a weird encounter with a homeles   
   19 Feb 26 16:12:36   
   
   From: ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com   
      
   On 2026-02-19, CrudeSausage  wrote:   
   > On 19 Feb 2026 00:18:40 GMT, rbowman wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 18 Feb 2026 20:18:52 GMT, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> I'm surprised that her kids didn't help her off the street. I can't   
   >>> imagine leaving my parents homeless, no matter what kind of mental   
   >>> issues they have. Honouring your parents is part of the Ten   
   >>> Commandments.   
   >>   
   >> Maybe the kids are the ones persecuting her for being a Christian.   
   >   
   > It's quite possible. Today's kids have been trained from a young age to   
   > worship themselves. It's part of what was described in 2 Timothy about the   
   > people of the last days:   
   >   
   >   
   > 1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days.   
   > 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud,   
   > abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,   
   > 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not   
   > lovers of the good,   
   > 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of   
   > God—   
      
   I like the older English editions better — they seem to be more direct and   
   make a stronger point.   
      
   The original Rheims New Testament (1582):   
      
      1. And this know thou, that in the last days shall approach perilous   
      times. 2. And men shall be lovers of themselves, covetous, haughty,   
      proud, blasphemous, not obedient to their parents, unkind, wicked, 3.   
      Without affection, without peace, accusers, incontinent, unmerciful,   
      without benignity. 4. Traitors, stubborn, puffed up, and lovers of   
      voluptuousness more then of God:   
      
   Rheims Challoner revision of 1764:   
      
      1 Know also this, that, in the last days, shall come dangerous times. 2   
      Men shall be lovers of themselves, covetous, haughty, proud, blasphemers,   
      disobedient to parents, ungrateful, wicked,  3 Without affection, without   
      peace, slanderers, incontinent, unmerciful, without kindness,  4   
      Traitors, stubborn, puffed up, and lovers of pleasures more than of God:   
      
   Words left out in the version of the Bible you quote, dangerous (perilous),   
   blasphemers (blasphemous), wicked, traitors. Wicked is stronger than   
   "unholy." Dangerous or perilous is more to the point than "terrible."   
   Without peace describes better the restlessness of the mind of this   
   generation.   
      
   At any rate, for what it's worth.   
      
   The King James Version (1611, 1769 revision) is closer to the Rheims New   
   Testament, but wordier:   
      
      1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For   
      men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud,   
      blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without   
      natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce,   
      despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers   
      of pleasures more than lovers of God;   
      
   > This paragraph makes it clear to me where people like Joel Crump are   
   > going. I assume this will also be the case for the Haitian thief I   
   > denounced yesterday in the convenience store.   
   >   
   > Did I ever mention that I profoundly dislike Haitians?   
      
   --   
   "Not just insane... Trump insane."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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