From: tnp@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 17/12/2025 06:55, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 12/16/25 20:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >> On 16/12/2025 20:40, rbowman wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 10:43:05 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 16/12/2025 06:50, c186282 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 12/15/25 12:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 15/12/2025 06:55, c186282 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> In his app, does he even NEED "real time" ?   
   >>>>>>>     "Close Enough" may be Good Enough perhaps.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No,m I get a report every two hours   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     So seven milliseconds is CRITICAL obviously   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> LOL   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> I did design my own PCBs   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     I've done a number from scratch ... photo-masks,   
   >>>>>     evil chemicals, the whole bit.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> It was cheaper to send the files to china than buy the kit..   
   >>>   
   >>> I wish I had that option back in the '70s. Doing the art work, creating   
   >>> the silk screens, etching, and drilling was a pain in the ass.   
   >>> Fortunately   
   >>> I hired an older woman who knew more about the etching part than I   
   >>> did and   
   >>> a lesbian who was happy to stand in front of a Bridgeport punching   
   >>> holes.   
   >>> I got funny looks from the management since it was an all male shop   
   >>> except   
   >>> for the front office but they weren't DEI hires. They were the best   
   >>> candidates for the positions.   
   >>   
   >> Back in the 1970s I worked for companies that could pay the rates for   
   >> commercial prototypes.   
   >>   
   >> But I built it all on pegboard first.   
   >   
   >    Mostly good ... but if it's higher-frequency circuits   
   >    you can't properly proto on such a board. You need a   
   >    REAL board to see if there are HF/RF cross-over and   
   >    capacitance problems and such. Sometimes just slight   
   >    repositioning of the traces can have large effects.   
   >   
   >    Oh, wifi, had a remote PI on my network. Performance   
   >    had become horrible since I got a new router+wifi.   
   >    Moved it exactly FOUR INCHES plus a slight rotation   
   >    the other day and the data rate went up 5X  :-)   
   >   
   >    Black magic !   
   >   
   Yes. The RF board got to revision 13...   
   ...   
      
   >    DISadvantage of really long range - you become   
   >    noticed/attractive to possibly malicious neighbors.   
   >    They can let something like 'hydra' run for a   
   >    week and find yer PW by brute force if they want.   
   >   
      
   Nearest neighbour is outside wifi range. 250 metres or more.   
      
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   For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the   
   very definition of slavery.   
      
   Jonathan Swift   
      
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