From: nunojsilva@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
      
   > On 17/12/2025 13:20, Nuno Silva wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-16, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro  wrote:   
   >>>> On 12 Dec 2025 06:37:51 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
   >>>>> Others prefer software that does try to clone commercial offerings,   
   >>>>> like LibreOffice, though.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not sure what "commercial offerings" it is trying to clone,   
   >>>   
   >>> M$ Office and all the commercial Office suites that were common   
   >>> when OpenOffice.org, which was forked into LibreOffice, started.   
   >>   
   >> According to Wikipedia, it started in *1985*. Might not have been open   
   >> source then, but that's when it started, it didn't appear from a vacuum   
   >> in the moment it was open-sourced.   
   >>   
   > IIRC that was  Star Office, Libre Office was a later fork around 2010.   
      
   LibreOffice was the continuation of a fork of OpenOffice.org which was IIRC   
   kind   
   of a set of patches on top of OOo.   
      
   For the purpose of what is being discussed here, OpenOffice.org *is*   
   StarOffice.   
      
   As far as the codebase and the UI are concerned, it has that   
   history. You really can't say it appeared out of nowhere in this   
   century, and you certainly can't claim it cloned Microsoft Office   
   because of that, given it apparently dates back to 1985...   
      
   >> Wikipedia also says in the infobox that Microsoft Office is from 1990,   
   >> but IIRC this one started as a collection of different tools Microsoft   
   >> acquired, so might predate that.   
   >>   
   >>> The first paragraph on the Wikipedia page even states it:   
   >>>   
   >>> "Sun open-sourced the software in July 2000 as a free alternative   
   >>>   to Microsoft Office, and released OpenOffice.org version 1.0 on 1   
   >>>   May 2002."   
   >>>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org   
   >>   
   > Still not Libre office   
      
   Then we should also consider that Microsoft Office started only when it   
   was commercialized under that name, and that Microsoft Office Word is   
   not the same as Microsoft Word and that Office 365 is not the same as   
   Office.   
      
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