From: nunojsilva@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-17, rbowman wrote:   
      
   > On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 14:34:08 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote:   
   >   
   >> Then we should also consider that Microsoft Office started only when it   
   >> was commercialized under that name, and that Microsoft Office Word is   
   >> not the same as Microsoft Word and that Office 365 is not the same as   
   >> Office.   
   >   
   > Wasn't there an editor that was bundled with Windows? Not Wordpad. It was   
   > something like Outlook Express, which had nothing in common with Outlook,   
   > but was good enough for Mom's Christmas Letter.   
      
   Not that I'm aware, the only bundled ones I recall are Notepad and   
   Write/Wordpad. But it's possible I just didn't use the Windows version   
   with it.   
      
   Or could you be thinking of Works, which was a separate product?   
      
   It was possibly their idea (acquisition, I guess?) of a productivity   
   suite for the "home" segment (as Office at least at some point was   
   mostly geared towards corporate/business use, at least where pricing was   
   concerned), and it had stuff like a WYSIWYG text editor, which IIRC   
   wasn't similar to Word.   
      
   > Other than reading RFPs and other documents that came my way in docx   
   > format I've never had a use for the genre. IT didn't install Office on the   
   > programming machines so we used LibreOffice. It was good enough for read   
   > only use.   
      
   While I've occasionally used OOo/LibreOffice Writer for a couple   
   documents, I really don't have much use for it beyond that. Still, the   
   one I have to wrestle the most if I try to use it is Impress. This is   
   not a problem of "not being PowerPoint" or the like, I'd have the very   
   same issue with PowerPoint: it's not Beamer.   
      
   The way I do slideshows/presentations just works much better with   
   Beamer. I wish Impress had at least some features that were comparable,   
   like an easy way to do incremental content like with \pause. But I never   
   researched much into that - maybe some day in the future I ought to   
   compile a wishlist of sorts.   
      
   (But then there's also the matter that being able to write the   
   presentation in $VISUAL is still wholly different from having to use a   
   GUI and possibly having to do some mouse-centric work.)   
      
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   Nuno Silva   
      
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