XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-19 10:27, Paul wrote:   
   > On Thu, 12/18/2025 4:49 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-17 02:15, rbowman wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 22:07:53 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Mine has a touch screen. I don't actually use it, but I was curious. It   
   >>>> works as a mouse.   
   >>>   
   >>> Including the greasy little trails? Every now and then I give the phone   
   >>> and tablets an alcohol wipe down when they get too disgusting.   
   >>   
   >> I use an specific screen cleaning product from my local supermarket :-)   
   >>   
   >> No, I mean I was curious to find out if a touch screen could be useful.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Touch screens support gestures.   
   >   
   > I can give an example at the mall. The mall has a very large touchscreen   
   > for directory lookup. I would touch the screen with a knuckle (as it's   
   > not a particularly high-precision touch screen). There is an OSK on the   
   > screen, you can use a knuckle to tap out the letters of the store name.   
   > I had selected a store and was encouraging the map to move towards   
   > the store in question.   
   >   
   > Well, the screen got rotated. I couldn't figure out what to do.   
   >   
   > Then I remembered some conversations from here, about Windows 8 gestures.   
   > I put two fingers on the screen, moved the fingers together ("pinch")   
   > and then rotated the fingers. The entire map rotated in response.   
      
   Just tried that on my laptop (openSUSE Leap 15.6 + XFCE). No response.   
   Tried also on Android: nope.   
      
   >   
   > That's one gesture that came in handy, at the mall screen. I'm sure any   
   > of the teenagers at the mall knew that, but it took me at least a   
   > minute to dig that up.   
   >   
   > Another popular gesture is the "mark of Zorro", which is the letter Z.   
   > If you make a motion like the letter Z, that is "dismiss" and will   
   > close an application window. Without having to touch a knuckle to the   
   > "X" in the upper right corner.   
      
   Nope. :-)   
      
   >   
   > At work, we had CAD software, with gestures. You made gestures with the   
   mouse.   
   > A touch screen is not necessary. Well, my fellow engineers, upon learning   
   > of the "dismiss" gesture, you could look across the room, and it   
   > looked like a "Zorro contest" :-) A bunch of idiots making Z letters   
   > using their mouse :-)   
   >   
   > The reason I have to pass that one on to you, is the anecdotal findings   
   > on gestures, is users can only memorize a small set of them. The "suite"   
   > might have twenty gestures. The users might remember two of them. They   
   > can Zorro like crazy... because they don't remember the others. And   
   > that is a simplified account of gestures...   
   >   
   > The Zorro crap eventually lost its charm, and the mouse was used   
   > with less flourish because frankly, the staff were exhausted from too   
   > many days of overtime. Our star engineer, used to complain that he   
   > hadn't seen his girlfriend in months. To which we would reply "what   
   girlfriend?".   
   > As a measure of the hopelessness of the situation.   
   >   
   >     Paul   
      
   {chuckle}   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
   ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;   
      
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