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|    The Natural Philosopher to All    |
|    Re: Cars, engines...    |
|    22 Dec 25 12:56:08    |
      XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11       From: tnp@invalid.invalid              On 21/12/2025 21:39, c186282 wrote:       > On 12/21/25 15:03, The Natural Philosopher wrote:       >> On 21/12/2025 19:49, c186282 wrote:       >>> On 12/20/25 05:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:       >>>> On 20/12/2025 06:32, c186282 wrote:       >>>>> Time is just an illusion of stupid little 3-D players.       >>>>       >>>> Which is an interesting philosophical position.       >>>>       >>>> Most of the quantum problems arise because we consider time and       >>>> space to be absolutes, rather than simply a way a local observer       >>>> structures his perception of the world.       >>>>       >>>> No matter what advanced maths e.g. Penrose does, he is always trying       >>>> to express quantum physics in terms of classical reality. Never the       >>>> other way around...       >>>       >>> Is there any reason to think time, as generally viewed,       >>> applies in dimensions 4-10 ???       >>>       >> It's just that people cannot get out of the habit of thinking that no       >> matter how weird quantum equations are, the 'normal' world of human       >> experience is the 'real world' and the quantum world is 'imaginary'...       >>       >> ...But what if it was the other way around?       >>       >>       >>       >>> There are a few "instantaneous" QM-related events, like       >>> the resolution of entanglement. Doesn't matter if the       >>> particles are across the universe - ZAP ! - so for those       >>> kinds of events 'time' really doesn't exist.       >>>       >>> Hmm ... maybe "as generally viewed" doesn't even apply       >>> to dimensions 1-3 either. Consider the possibility that       >>> time actually lurches back and forth rapidly, seconds,       >>> days, aeons maybe, and only AVERAGES "ahead". Everything,       >>> MAYbe the same, over and over and over. How would we know ? :-)       >>>       >> I think you are beginning to see the problem.       >>       >> Time organises data into causes and effects, but at a quantum level       >> its hard to say what causes effects.       >>       >> If indeed *anything* does... Time and space may simply be a       >> *transform* of what is more easily understood as entanglememt, into       >> 'our way of looking at stuff'       > There is no spoon ? :-)       >       > "Our way of looking at stuff" SERVES, well, nearly       > a billion years.              There is no time.:-)                            --       “The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that       the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."               - Bertrand Russell              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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