From: tnp@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 22/12/2025 16:49, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
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   > On 12/22/25 07:57, Bob Tennent wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 01:54:45 -0500, c186282 wrote:   
   >>   > On 12/21/25 21:17, Bob Tennent wrote:   
   >>   >> On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 02:11:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>   >>   > On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:47:21 +0000, The Natural Philosopher   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   >>   >   
   >>   >>   >> That alone makes it way better than privately insured and   
   >> delivered.   
   >>   >>   >> health services.   
   >>   >>   >   
   >>   >>   > But ... but ... how can *anything* Government-run *possibly*   
   >> be better   
   >>   >>   > than a private for-profit service?!!?? Doesn’t that go against   
   >>   >>   > everything that America Stands For??!??   
   >>   >>   
   >>   >> Health care in Canada isn't "government-run". It's run   
   >>   >> by doctors and hospitals. Government *pays* doctors and   
   >>   >> hospitals but doesn't "run" them.   
   >>   >   
   >>   >    Still doesn't do much good though ... subsidizing   
   >>   >    incompetence doesn't IMPROVE things.   
   >>   
   >> American health costs are higher than anywhere in the world   
   >> because of insurance administration. Yet outcomes are worse.   
   >> Doesn't sound like incompetence to me.   
   >   
   >      Sounds like in the USA we need to socialize, not medicine and   
   patient   
   > care, but insurance and take the profit to the insurers out of it.   
   >   
   That is a model many countries use. It's not perfect either.   
      
      
   >      But then in the US Military Services health care is free to service   
   > members   
   > and their families.  It is paid for out of the budget of the Defense   
   > Department.   
   > If that is not the situation we want to enjoy then we should keep things   
   > as they   
   > are.  If it sounds desirable maybe everyone should enlist or just vote   
   > to pay   
   > some more taxes if we are working to pay for healthcare for everyone.   
   >   
   >      Oh and we have a movement called Medicare for All that you might   
   > want to learn more about.  I have Medicare and at 88 have to report   
   > that in 2025 it has repaired my ankle and kept me in rehab facility for   
   > about 2.5 months.  I got out of the hospital on April 11tg.  Then I noted   
   > a bump on my nose that would not heal and it was basal cell carcinoma   
   > and I had to go to a Dermatological Surgeon and she worked very hard   
   > to make sure that all the cancer was gone.  Right now I have a bunch   
   > of stitches in my face and on my nose where a skin graft from my face   
   > was done.  Not one bit of fun in a long long day of cut, check the slice   
   > for cancer and then slice again, then stitch up the whole mess, with   
   > tons of local anesthetic injections.  All on Medicare which is socialized   
   > insurance for old folks like myself.   
   >   
   >      bliss   
   >   
      
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   guns, why should we let them have ideas?   
      
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