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   John Ames to Computer Nerd Kev   
   Re: The Web (HTML) Sux   
   22 Dec 25 13:58:23   
   
   From: commodorejohn@gmail.com   
      
   On 22 Dec 2025 08:14:15 +1000   
   not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:   
      
   > That's perfectly reasonable in my book. I don't believe in   
   > specifying exact fonts, sizes, etc. via CSS. Use  in plain   
   > HTML if you want small text and the user can configure their   
   > browser to display it in the way that works for them. Except where   
   > some browser makers choose silly default behaviours for some   
   > elements, plain HTML (4.0 Transitional) works to the user's best   
   > advantage. I do most of my browsing with CSS turned off so all that   
   > styling nonsense is ignored.   
      
   I do use some basic CSS for basic theming and layout, but overall I   
   agree that treating webpages as a medium for graphic design (not to   
   mention gimmicky JS navigation that all too often breaks standard   
   browser-navigation conventions) is wrong-headed and counterproductive,   
   if not outright abusive. Unfortunately, "wrong-headed, counter-   
   productive, and abusive" is the name of the game in this year of our   
   Lord 2025 :/   
      
   Whether it's things like hijacking or "papering over" links with CSS   
   constructs that make it impossible to get to one page without going   
   through another page first and artificially boosting page views thereby   
   (looking at you, YouTube,) designing layouts that are completely non-   
   functional if assumptions about DPI/resolution aren't met, requiring JS   
   to display static page content, or any of a dozen other common abuses,   
   it's absolutely epidemic - and while I can keep my own little corner of   
   the Web tidy and sane, and I've seen an encouraging trend in that   
   direction among young hackers and hacker-adjacent blogosphere types,   
   there's only so far you can go without being exposed to some godawful   
   bletcherous monstrosity of mainstream web design. It's enough to make   
   you long for Gopher...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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