From: nunojsilva@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-22, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
      
   > On 12/22/25 07:57, Bob Tennent wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 01:54:45 -0500, c186282 wrote:   
   >>   > On 12/21/25 21:17, Bob Tennent wrote:   
   >>   >> On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 02:11:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>   >>   > On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:47:21 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>   >>   >   
   >>   >>   >> That alone makes it way better than privately insured and   
   delivered.   
   >>   >>   >> health services.   
   >>   >>   >   
   >>   >>   > But ... but ... how can *anything* Government-run *possibly* be   
   better   
   >>   >>   > than a private for-profit service?!!?? Doesn’t that go against   
   >>   >>   > everything that America Stands For??!??   
   >>   >>   
   >>   >> Health care in Canada isn't "government-run". It's run   
   >>   >> by doctors and hospitals. Government *pays* doctors and   
   >>   >> hospitals but doesn't "run" them.   
   >>   >   
   >>   >    Still doesn't do much good though ... subsidizing   
   >>   >    incompetence doesn't IMPROVE things.   
   >>   
   >> American health costs are higher than anywhere in the world   
   >> because of insurance administration. Yet outcomes are worse.   
   >> Doesn't sound like incompetence to me.   
   >   
   > 	Sounds like in the USA we need to socialize, not medicine and patient   
   > care, but insurance and take the profit to the insurers out of it.   
      
   More likely the USA need to get rid of health insurance. Sadly, that   
   thing is getting adopted in some other countries. And we need only look   
   at the USA to see what the future might have in store...   
      
   You can have private health care, but when the whole industry is   
   designed around the business of health insurance, and "fixes" for it   
   need to account for the insurance business, that seems to be when things   
   go really wrong.   
      
   > 	But then in the US Military Services health care is free to   
   > service members   
   > and their families.  It is paid for out of the budget of the Defense   
   > Department.   
   > If that is not the situation we want to enjoy then we should keep   
   > things as they   
   > are.  If it sounds desirable maybe everyone should enlist or just vote   
   > to pay   
   > some more taxes if we are working to pay for healthcare for everyone.   
      
   Some people have a hard time grasping the concept of a non-anarchy state   
   with taxes.   
      
   Which may be particularly funny when/if that comes from the country that   
   keeps several "taxation without representation" territories, so where   
   taxation is even more prevalent than representative democracy. :-P   
      
   https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Us_reg_dc_2872.JPG   
      
   > 	Oh and we have a movement called Medicare for All that you might   
   > want to learn more about.  I have Medicare and at 88 have to report   
   > that in 2025 it has repaired my ankle and kept me in rehab facility for   
   > about 2.5 months.  I got out of the hospital on April 11tg.  Then I noted   
   > a bump on my nose that would not heal and it was basal cell carcinoma   
   > and I had to go to a Dermatological Surgeon and she worked very hard   
   > to make sure that all the cancer was gone.  Right now I have a bunch   
   > of stitches in my face and on my nose where a skin graft from my face   
   > was done.  Not one bit of fun in a long long day of cut, check the slice   
   > for cancer and then slice again, then stitch up the whole mess, with   
   > tons of local anesthetic injections.  All on Medicare which is socialized   
   > insurance for old folks like myself.   
      
   I hope you're doing better nowadays and that all is well!   
      
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