From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 09:59:21 -0800, John Ames wrote:   
      
   > For myself, I am entirely comfortable saying that overwrought,   
   > kludgy, and (especially) abusive patterns are *objectively bad web   
   > design,* in the same way that the people in charge of Grenfell Tower   
   > were engaging in objectively bad architectural renovations ...   
      
   Boy, what a way to escalate a strawman, conflating a matter of mere   
   aesthetics and personal annoyance with a situation that was actually   
   life-threatening on a massive scale.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)