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   Nuno Silva to All   
   Re: The Web (HTML) Sux   
   26 Dec 25 11:36:54   
   
   From: nunojsilva@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-24, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
      
   > On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 06:25:18 -0600, kouya wrote:   
   >   
   >> Am I supposed to be content with horrible design choices?   
   >   
   > You could always design your own, and show us how it’s done.   
   >   
   > Anybody can criticize what experts do, not anybody can actually do   
   > better.   
      
   These days, most of the time, it isn't about *experts*, but about   
      
   1) Frameworks depending on features that are either syntax-breaking or   
   for which no fallback is used. These are then used by third-parties   
   breaking a bunch of sites all at once, even without these parties   
   themselves being aware of this brokenness.   
      
   2) People learning to do web sites this way and who are not even aware   
   you can do things differently, let alone serve content without scripting   
   (which reportedly is starting to be a trend; I haven't seen it myself   
   yet, but I can imagine it happening...).   
      
   When some widely used framework adds backwards-incompatible code,   
   there can be a sizeable user base deploying that and breaking   
   websites. Take, for instance, Mastodon upstream, which started relying   
   in stuff like dynamic imports.   
      
   Mastodon, at least in version 4, never cared about being compatible, or   
   at least never appeared to care, it seems most of it is "let's make a   
   TSNFKAT clone", but at least it used to work in more browsers than it   
   does now. Whether it still works depends on whether a given instance is   
   using the newest branches of 4.*.   
      
   (Yes, I'm aware one thing is their official web UI and the other is the   
   service itself. No, stating that doesn't make that specific web UI   
   magically work.)   
      
   --   
   Nuno Silva   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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