From: nunojsilva@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-27, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
      
   > On 12/26/25 19:56, rbowman wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM   
   >>> vs apt   
   > 	   
   > 	There are several other init systems in use as well though   
   > only the discerning   
   > can understand the differences in results.   
      
   Even those classified as sysvinit can have significant differences, to   
   the point that, while not capable of some things, they're definitely   
   sufficient in a bunch of contexts.   
      
   >> Well, sort of.  There are .deb and .rpm packages.  The Apt Package Tool   
   >> uses .deb packages. Most Debian derived distros I'm familiar with use   
   >> apt.   
   >>   
   >> There is a RPM Package manager that uses .rpm files (surprise), but there   
   >> are frontends for it too. Fedora did use yum but now uses dnf. /usr/bin/   
   >> yum is a symlink to dnf.  OpenSUSE has zypper and a couple of other .rpm   
   >> based distros have their own package managers.   
   >   
   > 	PCLinuxOS has been using Synaptic with .rpm packages for a   
   > long time but it   
   > seems it will going to DNF which seems less capable than Synaptic from   
   > my very   
   > limited POV.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Then there is Arch Linux and pacman. That's the odd one. Rather than dnf   
   >> update or apt update is pacman -Syu, with a similar syntax for installs.   
   >> There are ways, not recommended, to use .deb or .rpm packages in Arch. I'm   
   >> not that brave. Then there is the yay frontend to the Arch User Repository   
   >> (AUR) that's more like automating building a tarball.   
   >>   
   >> There's probably other schemes given the 100+ distros.   
   >   
   > 	Some distros are built around a completely different package   
   > manager or aspire   
      
   Portage says hi.   
      
   > to "immutability" which I find a dubious and slippery concept.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> You also missed the other big food fight, Wayland vs. x11.   
   >>   
   > 	It continues with a small group working on another x11 replacement.   
   > Wayland is supposed to support all of X11 functions but the demanding   
   > users know that it falls short in some areas.   
      
   Which group is this?   
      
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