From: bowman@montana.com   
      
   On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 09:13:50 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote:   
      
   > On 2025-12-27, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 12/26/25 19:56, rbowman wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd -   
   >>>> RPM vs apt   
   >> 	   
   >> 	There are several other init systems in use as well though   
   >> only the discerning can understand the differences in results.   
   >   
   > Even those classified as sysvinit can have significant differences, to   
   > the point that, while not capable of some things, they're definitely   
   > sufficient in a bunch of contexts.   
   >   
   >>> Well, sort of.  There are .deb and .rpm packages.  The Apt Package   
   >>> Tool uses .deb packages. Most Debian derived distros I'm familiar with   
   >>> use apt.   
   >>>   
   >>> There is a RPM Package manager that uses .rpm files (surprise), but   
   >>> there are frontends for it too. Fedora did use yum but now uses dnf.   
   >>> /usr/bin/ yum is a symlink to dnf.  OpenSUSE has zypper and a couple   
   >>> of other .rpm based distros have their own package managers.   
   >>   
   >> 	PCLinuxOS has been using Synaptic with .rpm packages for a   
   >> long time but it seems it will going to DNF which seems less capable   
   >> than Synaptic from my very limited POV.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Then there is Arch Linux and pacman. That's the odd one. Rather than   
   >>> dnf update or apt update is pacman -Syu, with a similar syntax for   
   >>> installs. There are ways, not recommended, to use .deb or .rpm   
   >>> packages in Arch. I'm not that brave. Then there is the yay frontend   
   >>> to the Arch User Repository (AUR) that's more like automating building   
   >>> a tarball.   
   >>>   
   >>> There's probably other schemes given the 100+ distros.   
   >>   
   >> 	Some distros are built around a completely different package   
   >> manager or aspire   
   >   
   > Portage says hi.   
   >   
   >> to "immutability" which I find a dubious and slippery concept.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> You also missed the other big food fight, Wayland vs. x11.   
   >>>   
   >> 	It continues with a small group working on another x11   
   replacement.   
   >> Wayland is supposed to support all of X11 functions but the demanding   
   >> users know that it falls short in some areas.   
   >   
   > Which group is this?   
      
   https://x11libre.net/   
      
   I find it concerning he starts off with a rant. Nothing against rants but   
   they don't tend to have staying power.   
      
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