From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-29 02:43, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 12/28/25 15:56, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 13:56:04 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> As I am an openSUSE user, I don't understand the idea of having   
   >>> different "distributions" with just a different desktop.   
   >>   
   >> Quite common: my example was Ubuntu, but also Linux Mint does   
   >> something similar. Maybe this is to make things more attractive to   
   >> those coming from Windows or Mac, who would not not be so familiar   
   >> with the concept of package managers and being able to freely change   
   >> system configurations after initial installation.   
   >>   
   >>> openSUSE has a bunch of them, and you can install any or all of   
   >>> them. Each user of the machine can use a different one.   
   >>   
   >> Same with Debian, and derivatives like Ubuntu basically inherit that.   
   >   
   >   
   >    OpenSUSE has (maybe 'had') a place in the installer   
   >    where you could just check boxes and pick however   
   >    many UIs you wanted. A few others have something like   
   >    that, but it has to be the 'network install', not   
   >    from a DVD or whatever.   
      
   The installer has (had?) tick boxes to choose Gnome | KDE | XFCE. To   
   choose others you had (have?) to go into the detailed package selection   
   and choose the pattern for other desktops. This requires the online   
   repositories to be activated, the DVD only contains GNome and KDE.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>> Ok, the install DVD usually comes with KDE and Gnome, while XFCE has   
   >>> to be downloaded. We had a brawl years ago so that the installer   
   >>> would not mark any desktop by default, the user had always to   
   >>> choose. That kept both the KDE and Gnome crowds happy.   
   >>   
   >> My impression was that KDE was more popular among European users,   
   >> while GNOME was dominant in North America.   
   >>   
   >> SUSE, originating in Europe, I think defaulted to KDE for a long   
   >> while. I guess that’s changed recently ...   
   >   
   >    It DOES try to push you towards KDE ... and it's got   
   >    some sort of 'common desktop' but I always uncheck   
   >    that so I'm not sure what it is.   
      
      
   No, SUSE (ie, the commercial version) defaults to Gnome, and only   
   includes Gnome, AFAIK. The community provides KDE and others, I think.   
      
      
   openSUSE tried to default to KDE, but we convinced the devs to default   
   to none, a bunch of years ago. Now and then they may forget and try to   
   default to something. We had a fight about it.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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