From: not@telling.you.invalid   
      
   Nuno Silva  wrote:   
   > On 2025-12-30, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:33:59 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> My sore point with Wayland is that it doesn't seem to work if the   
   >>> machine doesn't have 3D.   
   >>   
   >> Are there any machines made this century like that?   
   >   
   > ... yes.   
   >   
   > And worse, I think a bit of that may get done on software if the   
   > hardware doesn't support all of it, so if your response is this, it's   
   > making me wonder: is Wayland really dependent on hardware acceleration   
   > for 3D?   
      
   As I understand it Wayland does 3D through Mesa, and Mesa has a   
   software renderer driver, so I don't know why hardware 3D support   
   would be a requirement (except if the software rendering is   
   considered unusably slow). Actually it now has several, since the   
   swrast driver was removed now they have softpipe, llvmpipe, and   
   swr.   
      
   Of course you'll need Mesa's software renderer drivers installed.   
   I guess they could be missing or optional on some distros.   
      
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