XPost: alt.folklore.computers   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2026-01-02 11:37, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 1/2/26 00:59, rbowman wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 23:54:37 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> IMO biggest drawback of Turbo Pascal was poor speed of generated code   
   >>> (and size too).  For me deal breaker was fact that Turbo Pascal was   
   >>> 16-bit and tied to DOS.  DJGCC gave me 32-bit integers and slightly   
   >>> later I switched to Linux, so Turbo Pascal was not longer relevant for   
   >>> me.  But if you were programming 16-bit DOS and did not mind poor speed   
   >>> of generated code, than IMO Turbo Pascal was quite decent programming   
   >>> language, quite competitive in expressivity to C.   
   >>   
   >> I never used the DOS TurboPascal, only the CP/M version. I used the BDS C   
   >> subset compiler on CP/M and moved to DJGPP eventually.   
   >   
   >    Look ... consider the existing environment. It WAS   
   >    the M$/IBM multi-pass Pascal compiler (still have   
   >    that in a VM and DO use it once in awhile for fun).   
   >   
   >    TP was a TOTAL REVOLUTION ... not only because of   
   >    the integrated development environment but because   
   >    of the BLAZING compilation speed.   
   >   
   >    If/when the final code was a bit bigger than the   
   >    old compilers - WHO CARED ???   
      
   I don't remember at what version, 4 or 6, the binary program became much   
   smaller. A HelloWorld was roughly 2 KB, while in C it was 28. They   
   invented smart linking.   
      
      
   >   
   >    TP let you write, test, re-write, test ... in   
   >    mere MINUTES and helped you along all the way.   
   >   
   >    In short it SET THE STANDARD for how IDEs   
   >    should be. From there on everybody expected   
   >    equal or better.   
   >   
   >    And yes, I love Pascal ... still use FPC/Lazarus   
   >    quite a bit. There's just a certain 'elegance'   
   >    to Pascal ... reminds of composing classical   
   >    music somehow ........   
   >   
      
      
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   Cheers, Carlos.   
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