home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   comp.os.linux.misc      Linux-specific topics not covered by oth      135,536 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 134,231 of 135,536   
   Nuno Silva to All   
   Re: naughty Python   
   02 Jan 26 13:15:56   
   
   XPost: alt.folklore.computers   
   From: nunojsilva@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 2026-01-02, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
      
   > On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 02:53:45 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:   
   >   
   >> In alt.folklore.computers Lawrence D’Oliveiro  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> The only succinct definition of “AI” I ever saw was: “solving NP   
   >>> problems in polynomial time”.   
   >>   
   >> Well, for me AI is process (and its results) of trying to solve   
   >> problems that we can not solve using known (at given time) methods   
   >> and which seem to require inteligence.   
   >   
   > You don’t see crossing the P/NP divide as being a good indication of   
   > such a distinction?   
      
   (Someone please correct me if I'm handling some concept less than   
   optimally:)   
      
   AFAIK: No, because that'd not be a characteristic of AI, but more likely   
   ground-breaking findings that'd affect all of computer science?   
      
   In short: I think you may be mistaking NP's definition for a way to   
   reduce NP problems to P ones. - What you hint at seems to really be the   
   definition of NP itself?   
      
   A strategy which falls under the AI label (the one used for decades, not   
   the one in the GenAI hype) may be able to handle NP problems quicker   
   within certain likelihoods, that's not making them P, that's just   
   getting to solutions "at random", that can then be *verified* in   
   polynomial time.   
      
   The problem itself would still remain in NP, even if such algorithms   
   have practical applications.   
      
   The ability to address such problems in that way may be a good   
   description of at least some of these AI techniques, but I think saying   
   they're "solved in polynomial time" is taking it too far. Also, doesn't   
   AI also include other techniques which aren't focused on this, such as   
   pattern identification in datasets?   
      
   --   
   Nuno Silva   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca