XPost: alt.folklore.computers   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2026-01-02 21:18, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 1/2/26 14:29, rbowman wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 02:40:13 -0500, c186282 wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>     Pascal was not a 'theoretical' lang ... Prof Nick actually meant it   
   >>>     to WORK in the real world.   
   >>   
   >> I disagree with that. Wirth was mostly concerned with constructing   
   >> didactic languages. The joke about the original implementatino was it   
   >> is a   
   >> good language for telling itself secrets since there is no i/o.   
   >   
   >    Must have been a damned early version.   
      
   I certainly studied i/o in what they told us was standard pascal, using   
   the original Wirth book.   
      
   Maybe depends on how you define i/o?   
      
   >   
   >    Old ALGOL had no I/O however. Didn't show up   
   >    until what, '68 ?   
   >   
   >> Students learned it and extended it when they had to use it in the real   
   >> world. Lisp has a similar history. Common Lisp and its descendants   
   >> violate   
   >> the purity of the Lisp concept but get things done.   
   >   
   >    "There's nothing pure in this world ..."   
   >   
      
      
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