From: tnp@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 16/01/2026 12:43, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:   
   > rbowman wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 07:15:04 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Richard Kettlewell wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:   
   >>>   
   >>>> c186282  writes:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    
   >>>>   
   >>>> ifconfig omits quite basic information. For example it misses out most   
   >>>> of the IPv4 addresses.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      $ ifconfig br0   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    
   >>>>   
   >>>>      $ ip addr show br0   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    
   >>>>   
   >>>> It also doesn’t seem to know about bridge membership:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      $ ip addr show eno1.1   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    
   >>>   
   >>> Don't forget to mention that ip addr has nice color coding :-)   
   >>   
   >> I suppose it would help if I knew what 'inet6   
   >> 2600:100e:b036:72f8:38ba:e736:ff86:ba23/64 scope global deprecated dynamic   
   >> mngtmpaddr noprefixroute'   
   >>   
   >> is telling me or, for that matter what ifconfig's entry means.   
   >   
   > That's on you, bro. Educate yourself.  :-)   
   >   
   >> inet6 2600:100e:b036:72f8:38ba:e736:ff86:ba23  prefixlen 64  scopeid   
   >> 0x0   
   >>   
   >> I'm not a network admin and it's all noise to me. '-h' and '-p' are the   
   >> same although 'j' does emit json.   
   >   
   > I used to know a lot of this stuff (training and all), but haven't   
   > used it in years.   
   >   
   The problem with Unix and subsequently Linux is that the networking   
   paradigms predate the Internet, and there is stuff in there that isn't   
   relevant to normal users.   
      
   Its deep magic only occasionally useful. The GUI interfaces render most   
   of that stuff invisible with the usual features only, being addressed.   
      
      
   --   
   "Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will   
   let them."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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