From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2026-01-16 22:03, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   > On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 21:40:30 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >   
   >> Way too complicated.   
   >   
   > First you said it couldn’t be done at all -- that it was   
   > “intentionally impossible”, and “intentionally not implemented by the   
   > journal”. Now when I point out it can be done quite easily,   
   > potentially with just a few lines of script, you claim that’s “way too   
   > complicated”.   
      
   It is way too complicated. I want tools provided by the systemd people, not   
   hacks.   
      
   Remember, I was simply commenting a feature that syslog has as default, and   
   systemd refuses to implement.   
      
   > What I think is, it’s your existing way of laboriously copying and   
   > filtering text-format logfiles with your own (likely regexp-heavy)   
   > custom scripting, that is “way too complicated”, and you are suffering   
   > from something called the “sunk-cost fallacy”, where you don’t want to   
   > throw away all the effort you have put into your existing ways of   
   > doing things, even if the new way is simpler.   
      
   I am using no scripting at all. I use the default toolset for handling syslog   
   messages for decades of *nix.   
      
   /etc/rsyslog.conf:    (this configuration came with the system, commented out,   
   so I just had to uncoment it)   
      
   news.crit                               -/var/log/news/news.crit   
   news.err                                -/var/log/news/news.err   
   news.notice                             -/var/log/news/news.notice   
   news.debug                              -/var/log/news/news.debug   
      
      
   /etc/logrotate.d/syslog:    (this configuration is the same as default for   
   other files)   
      
   /var/log/news/news.crit /var/log/news/news.err /var/log/news/news.notice {   
        compress   
        dateext   
        maxage 365   
        rotate 99   
        missingok   
        notifempty   
        size +4096k   
        su news news   
        create 640 news news   
        sharedscripts   
        postrotate   
            /usr/bin/systemctl reload syslog.service > /dev/null   
   #       /etc/init.d/syslog reload > /dev/null   
        endscript   
   }   
      
      
   #CER news.debug is very verbose, not needed to keep long.   
   /var/log/news/news.debug  {   
        compress   
        dateext   
        maxage 30   
        rotate 10   
        missingok   
        notifempty   
        size +4096k   
        su news news   
        create 640 news news   
        sharedscripts   
        postrotate   
            /usr/bin/systemctl reload syslog.service > /dev/null   
        endscript   
   }   
      
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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