From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 1/18/26 14:12, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   > On 2026-01-18 22:15, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:   
   >> Le 18-01-2026, Lawrence D’Oliveiro  a écrit :   
   >>>   
   >>> On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 11:13:44 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> "Carlos E.R."  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You forget that it is THEIR router, not mine. I can not just get a   
   >>>>> router.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Ouch. Please forgive my European-Centric View, where residential   
   >>>> customers HAVE to get the option to choose their own router.   
   >>>   
   >>> Carlos is in Spain. 😑   
   >>>   
   >>> Here in NZ, we have a decently competitive Internet provider market,   
   >>> too, like you have in Germany.   
   >>   
   >> In France we have a decently correct ISP market too. But it means we can   
   >> chose our ISP. Mostly the biggest ISP come with their router and we have   
   >> to use it. The possibility to choose one's ISP doesn't imply we can   
   >> choose our router.   
   >   
   > Absolutely, same situation in Spain.   
      
   	Well AT&T leased lines to my provider DSLExtreme and for a while I could   
   use my own router but then AT&T decided to force their routers on us.  They   
   do not seem to be tripping over the connecting line or power cord since they   
   did that.  In those years of using my own router instead of a 56L modem   
   that happened a lot that something at the AT&T shop which required a call   
   to my provider who called or messaged someone at AT&T to have the situation   
   corrected i.e. plugged back into the provider or power.   
   	That hasn't happened since the AT&T router was installed.   
   >   
   >   
   > Anyway, the context was a beta testing of IPv6, and I proved that at   
   > lest one of the provided routers was not IPv6 ready. It did not activate   
   > a firewall for IPv6.   
   >   
   > I reported this, and they did some thing that closed all incoming IPv6   
   > connections to my machines. Input ssh directly to a machine in my LAN   
   > from outside became impossible in IPv6, and no means to open it up. And   
   > that is a crucial feature of IPv6: no needing to use NAT and tricks in   
   > the router to connect from outside to a machine inside.   
   >   
      
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