From: tnp@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 20/01/2026 13:34, Marc Haber wrote:   
   > The Natural Philosopher  wrote:   
   >> On 20/01/2026 09:46, Marc Haber wrote:   
   >>> but the   
   >>> fiber operators artificially emulate the absurdly asymmetric plans   
   >>> from the legacy technologies,   
   >> The asymmetry results from traffic analysis done in the early days of   
   >> 'consumer Internet'.   
   >   
   > Both DOCSIS and VDSL vectoring can't do symmetric. They rely on the   
   > high data rate going from the central point to the branches.   
   >   
   It's not a question of 'cant': They were *deliberately designed not to*.   
      
   And they don't 'rely' on anything other than a piece of [coaxial?] wire.   
      
   The issue is that the total bandwidth (up + down) is limited. So you   
   select a protocol that fits most customers usage the best.   
      
   ADSL, VDSL and DOCSIS reflect that *choice*.   
      
   Back in the day we used other serial protocols that were symmetric. Like   
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   > Greetings   
   > Marc   
      
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