From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 1/20/26 17:40, vallor wrote:   
   > At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 19:47:14 -0500, c186282  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/20/26 16:43, rbowman wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 21:00:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Yeah, but sudo *is* for running things as root! You think running them   
   >>>> via sudo is any better than however else you were thinking of doing   
   >>>> those things as root?   
   >>>   
   >>> Sudo limits the damage.  Become root with 'sudo su -' and you'd better not   
   >>> have lapses of attention. I think it was OpenSUSE where if you were root   
   >>> the wallpaper turned bright red with round, black bombs with smoking   
   >>> fuses.   
   >>   
   >>     'sudo', as often implemented, is NOT safe. PI-os   
   >>     doesn't even ask for yer user PW.   
   >>   
   >>     You CAN tweak sudoers ... tighten things up a bit,   
   >>     but that's more work and, if like me, you never   
   >>     use 'visudo', just 'nano', you'd better get the   
   >>     syntax right.   
   >>   
   >>     The alt is to have NO 'sudo'. If you are concerned   
   >>     about security then this may be the best and easiest   
   >>     path. Open a terminal, 'su', then you need the ROOT   
   >>     password.   
   >   
   > I have a file in /etc/sudoers.d that includes this directive:   
   >   
   > Defaults	targetpw   
   >   
   > So I need the root password to sudo to root.   
   >   
      
   	Only if you are adept with a terminal.  I set my machine, my root and my   
   own user password on my machine.  But I use terminals or specific GUI   
   programs   
   and get access to things that change my machine by using "su -" or the root   
   password in requesters for those GUI programs.  Since I started with   
   Mandriva   
   none of this is strange to me since I have been doing it for going on 20   
   years.   
   	On the original AmigaOS there were no root accounts and no package   
   managers. We didn't do checksums and essentially booted into the root   
   account   
   whenever we booted up. Of course the AmigaOS didn't even have an IP stack.   
   	35 years ago, at least, on AmigaOS using gui fast as any x86 500 MHz   
   on a 14 MHz 68000MC. No internet only BBS on Terminal programs.   
      
   bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2026- Linux 6.12.66 pclos1- KDE Plasma   
   6.5.5   
      
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