From: bowman@montana.com   
      
   On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 08:06:04 -0800, John Ames wrote:   
      
   > Seven years, then, is a comfortable approximation, but you could argue   
   > that the gap was either much longer or much shorter. I'd have to go   
   > digging further to get a better notion of *A.* how long it took after   
   > Richie's first efforts for C to be in general use, and *B.* whether C++   
   > saw much use at all before the '85 standard.   
      
   The real problem was 'The C++ Programming Language' in 1985 was a   
   reference for Stroustrup's use of the language, not a standard. If you can   
   find a 1st or 2nd edition it really is 'C with Classes' more than what the   
   language became.   
      
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