From: commodorejohn@gmail.com   
      
   On 5 Feb 2026 17:33:10 GMT   
   rbowman  wrote:   
      
   > > Seven years, then, is a comfortable approximation, but you could   
   > > argue that the gap was either much longer or much shorter. I'd have   
   > > to go digging further to get a better notion of *A.* how long it   
   > > took after Richie's first efforts for C to be in general use, and   
   > > *B.* whether C++ saw much use at all before the '85 standard.   
   >   
   > The real problem was 'The C++ Programming Language' in 1985 was a   
   > reference for Stroustrup's use of the language, not a standard. If   
   > you can find a 1st or 2nd edition it really is 'C with Classes' more   
   > than what the language became.   
      
   True, but then that's also true (to a lesser extent) of C - certainly   
   you won't find C23 lambdas in K&R!   
      
   I'm more curious about the point at which people besides the creators   
   were using it for stuff. DMR created C as a systems language for Unix,   
   but it wasn't the first HLL on that system and I don't know how long it   
   took to catch on with the rest of the Bell Labs crowd, let alone the   
   world at large; C++ post-"C with classes" existed by the mid-'80s, but   
   OOP didn't become a big fad 'til a good few years into the '90s and I   
   don't know how much use it ever saw before that point.   
      
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