From: nunojsilva@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 2026-02-16, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
      
   >   
   > Actually Plasma 5 was very light but Plasma 6 added back a lot of volume   
   > in disk and  memory space. Despite that it contains useful improvements   
   > especially to the clipboard.  Sadly KDE has decided to beome dependent   
   > on systemd so that it will become much heavier and I will have to give it   
   > up as PCLinuxOS is specifically anti-systemd or Poettering's folly as we   
   > call it.  I started using KDE about 20 years ago on version 3.57 for   
   > Mandriva because it gave me a Desktop Environment on which I could   
   > maintain the workflow I had become accustomed to on AmigaOS.   
      
   Not that this says anything about whether it will depend more on systemd   
   or not, but some posts I saw on the fediverse suggest that currently   
   only their graphical login manager depends/will depend on systemd.   
      
   If the KDE sources are not misleading and really mean it by saying it's   
   just the login manager, then the desktop itself ought to be still usable   
   without systemd.   
      
   > I have run it on lots of laptops including a thrift shop Inspiron 4000   
   > with a 700 MHz coppermine with <1 GB of memory. It came with   
   > Windows XP and KDE was as fast as XP once I cut back Virtual   
   > Desktops to only 1.   
   >   
   > 	KAOS is also trying to kick the Plasma habit as well because  they   
   > are unhappy with the increased dependency on systemd.  They have used   
   > systemd up to now and so must be waking up to the idea that it is a   
   > anti-GNU/Linux kludge.   
      
   I haven't used desktop environments in a long time, I remember the days   
   KDE was heavy enough to be a problem with, what was it, 64 MiB RAM? :-)   
      
   (The problem might have been not the DE itself, but that it didn't leave   
   much to run other not-so-light applications like OOo.)   
      
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