From: jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid   
      
   John McCue  writes:   
      
   > This is a hard decision, but probably necessary due to the   
   > amount of work avoiding systemd.  I think KDE/systemd is a   
   > struggle Slackware is facing also.   
   We have a thread about this on Linuxquestions Slackware   
   subforum. Personally, I'd kick it to the curb but apparently alot of   
   Slackware users like using it for the desktop. I'd put the link but it   
   seems the site is under a spam attack the last couple of days and I   
   can't get on right now.   
      
   > But I believe the day will come were Linux distros will be   
   > unable to avoid systemd.  If people want to avoid it, they   
   > should look at a BSD and get use to it "just in case".   
   systemd is really a fork of gnu/linux, and should be rightfully called   
   "systemd/linux" because it's vastly different from gnu/linux. I'm all   
   about choice but at some point there *is* no choice. Good luck using   
   Linux without PAM, udev, or dbus on a modern system. systemd will be   
   like that soon. At least those things kept to one area of the system and   
   didn't try to re-write the entire user and administrator interface while   
   claiming to be an "init system".   
      
   I already have Omni and Openindiana systems. If I have to, I'll use the   
   last gnu/linux before systemd takes it and use that for hardware that   
   illumos won't run but keep everything else off Linux. The hardware   
   support isn't as good as BSD, and of course nowhere near Linux, but   
   that's what I'll have to work with because I absolutely will not be   
   kissing the systemd ring. Going back to Windows ain't going to happen   
   and I hate Apple (it's over-priced on top of everything else).   
      
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