From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 2/17/26 08:57, jayjwa wrote:   
   > John McCue  writes:   
   >   
   >> This is a hard decision, but probably necessary due to the   
   >> amount of work avoiding systemd.  I think KDE/systemd is a   
   >> struggle Slackware is facing also.   
   > We have a thread about this on Linuxquestions Slackware   
   > subforum. Personally, I'd kick it to the curb but apparently alot of   
   > Slackware users like using it for the desktop. I'd put the link but it   
   > seems the site is under a spam attack the last couple of days and I   
   > can't get on right now.   
   >   
   >> But I believe the day will come were Linux distros will be   
   >> unable to avoid systemd.  If people want to avoid it, they   
   >> should look at a BSD and get use to it "just in case".   
   > systemd is really a fork of gnu/linux, and should be rightfully called   
   > "systemd/linux" because it's vastly different from gnu/linux. I'm all   
   > about choice but at some point there *is* no choice. Good luck using   
   > Linux without PAM, udev, or dbus on a modern system. systemd will be   
   > like that soon. At least those things kept to one area of the system and   
   > didn't try to re-write the entire user and administrator interface while   
   > claiming to be an "init system".   
   >   
   > I already have Omni and Openindiana systems. If I have to, I'll use the   
   > last gnu/linux before systemd takes it and use that for hardware that   
   > illumos won't run but keep everything else off Linux. The hardware   
   > support isn't as good as BSD, and of course nowhere near Linux, but   
   > that's what I'll have to work with because I absolutely will not be   
   > kissing the systemd ring. Going back to Windows ain't going to happen   
   > and I hate Apple (it's over-priced on top of everything else).   
   >   
   > ssh ibushi uname -a   
   > SunOS ibushi 5.11 illumos-f8f3128c12 i86pc i386 i86pc   
   >   
      
   	KDE is not going to require systemd according to a story reported   
   on 9-5 Linux site quoted below:   
   > KDE Says Plasma Desktop Will Never Force Users to Use systemd   
   > Only the Plasma Login Manager will be dependent on systemd, but future   
   Plasma releases aren’t   
   > dependent on Plasma Login Manager, nor systemd.   
   > by Marcus Nestor  February 16th, 2026 -7 Comments   
      
      
      
   Oh and by the way PCLinuxOS is anti-systemd and we have had a week of   
   some hysteria over the bad reporting.   
      
   bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2026.01- Linux 6.12.71 pclos1- KDE   
   Plasma 6.5.5   
      
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