From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 2/17/26 02:15, Nuno Silva wrote:   
   > On 2026-02-16, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Actually Plasma 5 was very light but Plasma 6 added back a lot of volume   
   >> in disk and  memory space. Despite that it contains useful improvements   
   >> especially to the clipboard.  Sadly KDE has decided to beome dependent   
   >> on systemd so that it will become much heavier and I will have to give it   
   >> up as PCLinuxOS is specifically anti-systemd or Poettering's folly as we   
   >> call it.  I started using KDE about 20 years ago on version 3.57 for   
   >> Mandriva because it gave me a Desktop Environment on which I could   
   >> maintain the workflow I had become accustomed to on AmigaOS.   
   >   
   > Not that this says anything about whether it will depend more on systemd   
   > or not, but some posts I saw on the fediverse suggest that currently   
   > only their graphical login manager depends/will depend on systemd.   
   >   
   > If the KDE sources are not misleading and really mean it by saying it's   
   > just the login manager, then the desktop itself ought to be still usable   
   > without systemd.   
   >   
   >> I have run it on lots of laptops including a thrift shop Inspiron 4000   
   >> with a 700 MHz coppermine with <1 GB of memory. It came with   
   >> Windows XP and KDE was as fast as XP once I cut back Virtual   
   >> Desktops to only 1.   
   >>   
   >> 	KAOS is also trying to kick the Plasma habit as well because  they   
   >> are unhappy with the increased dependency on systemd.  They have used   
   >> systemd up to now and so must be waking up to the idea that it is a   
   >> anti-GNU/Linux kludge.   
   >   
   > I haven't used desktop environments in a long time, I remember the days   
   > KDE was heavy enough to be a problem with, what was it, 64 MiB RAM? :-)   
   >   
   > (The problem might have been not the DE itself, but that it didn't leave   
   > much to run other not-so-light applications like OOo.)   
   >   
      
   	Well I nerver had problems with Open Office or LibreOffice but think   
   I will be using Only Office in the future.  As soon as I locate my camera   
   which is USB external I will be upgrading this machines memory and disk.   
   ram from 16 to 32 GB and SSD from 512 to 1.5 TB.  I promised my fellow   
   users at the PCLinux Forum to provide pictures some time back. Then   
   I broke my right ankle so that I have been not been myself for about 17   
   months.  Camera will be run from my Dell 7450 when I find it.   
      
   bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2026.01- Linux 6.12.71 pclos1- KDE   
   Plasma 6.5.5   
      
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