From: bowman@montana.com   
      
   On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 12:04:17 -0500, jayjwa wrote:   
      
   > Lawrence D’Oliveiro  writes:   
   >   
   >>> Good luck using Linux without PAM, udev, or dbus on a modern system.   
   >>   
   >> Well, unless your definition of “modern” is circular (i.e. a system   
   >> *with* PAM, udev and D-Bus)   
   > Well, you got me there. My point was, that PAM is somewhat new in   
   > Slackware and, once things reach a certain critial mass, everyone has to   
   > jump on board with it. Such was the case with udev, PAM, dbus,   
   > etc. systemd will be like this.   
      
   I recently found out more about PAM than I really wanted to know on a   
   Lenovo laptop running EndeavourOS.  The laptop has a fingerprint reader   
   that I was trying to get working and that required editing PAM files.   
      
   I got it to work but it didn't work well with my use case. The laptop is   
   usually on a KVM switch and reaching over to the reader to sudo was   
   awkward. It would be better if using it as a laptop.   
      
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