From: vallor@vallor.earth   
      
   At Sat, 21 Feb 2026 01:46:53 -0500, c186282  wrote:   
      
   > On 2/21/26 01:33, rbowman wrote:   
   > > On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 01:11:46 -0500, c186282 wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> A gaudy interface. The alleged package manager/updater only shows about   
   > >> 10 percent of what's actually there. Zypper can search - but installing   
   > >> something does not mean it will WORK. It's worse than Centos/Gnome4. It   
   > >> is just unusable except maybe for Granny who only wants web/e-mail.   
   > >   
   > > I only installed it into a VM but Leap/KDE looks just the same as Fedora/   
   > > KDE and EndeavourOS/KDE. If you don't like KDE you should have went with   
   > > Leap/GNOME. That one really sucks.   
   >   
   >    Hard to imagine it's even MORE sucky ...   
   >   
   >    But I do remember Centos with G4 ... a constant   
   >    fight to accomplish anything useful, and those   
   >    HUGE icons !!!   
   >   
   >    And people wonder why I stick with LXDE/Debs.   
   >    You get a COMPUTER computer geared to DO stuff.   
   >   
   > > You do seem to be having more problems than the average bear.   
   >   
   >    Things have not gone well of late. They went very well   
   >    for a very long time, but now ......   
   >   
   >    As usual, everybody is convinced they have the   
   >    BETTER PLAN.   
   >   
   >    And DON'T.   
   >   
   >    Anyway, Deb13 back on the box. Took barely 15 minutes   
   >    to install, five minutes to install/set VNC and SSH.   
   >    Synaptic shows EVERYTHING and helps you along.   
   >   
   >    I'll go for VirtualBox tomorrow.   
   >   
   >    Ever tried GhostBSD ? It's pretty nice and straight-up.   
   >    They SAY it's sort of a merger of FreeBSD and TrueOS.   
   >   
   >    MAY also make an Arch Universe VM. I can just barely   
   >    stand Manjaro/XFCE and the one remaining box has been   
   >    reliable (until the nvidia lib issue recently mentioned).   
   >    Gonna give that one a couple of weeks ... if I'm having   
   >    issues LOTS of people are.   
      
   Have you tried using virt-manager to manage your kvm instances?   
      
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