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From: znu@fake.invalid
In article ,
JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2010-12-09, ZnU wrote:
> > In article ,
> > JEDIDIAH wrote:
> >
> >> On 2010-12-09, ZnU wrote:
> >> > In article ,
> >> > JEDIDIAH wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2010-12-08, ZnU wrote:
> >> >> > In article ,
> >> >> > JEDIDIAH wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On 2010-12-08, ZnU wrote:
> >> >> >> > In article ,
> >> >> >> > JEDIDIAH wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On 2010-12-07, Justin wrote:
> >> >> [deletia]
> >> >> >> > Native OS X software rarely has external third-party dependancies.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yeah. Just the really important core stuff has those problems.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Meanwhile, *nix-style software can be installed via *nix-style
> >> >> >> > package
> >> >> >> > managers. Remind me again what the problem is supposed to be?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Quicktime.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Why do you play these stupid games? If you actually have some issue
> >> >> > here, give enough detail that people can meaningfully reply.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have already. Multiple times.
> >> >>
> >> >> The best you idiots could do is spout off about some Mac variant
> >> >> of ffmpeg and leave it at that.
> >> >>
> >> >> Really the most effective way to deal with Quicktime's limitations
> >> >> is
> >> >> to install something that doesn't depend upon it at all like VLC or
> >> >> Plex.
> >> >
> >> > I thought we were talking about dependency management. You're back to
> >> > your pathological obsession with what video formats Apple provides out
> >> > of the box support for.
> >>
> >> Of course I am.
> >>
> >> This is a classic use case for dependency management.
> >>
> >> It used to be something that Linux was bludgeoned over.
> >>
> >> Turnabout is foul play.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> The Ubuntu default video player also sorts out it's own plugins
> >> >> quite
> >> >> nicely when you stumble upon something it can't handle. It determines
> >> >> what
> >> >> it is missing, downloads that by itself, and then plays your file.
> >> >
> >> > That's nice. What does it have to do with anything?
> >>
> >> We're talking about package management here. Do try to keep up.
> >
> > We were, yes. You seem to be talking about some feature specific to a
> > particular video player application, which as far as I can tell is
> > entirely unrelated to the general discussion of package management into
> > which you inserted it.
>
> Well of course "as far as you can tell".
>
> You're an idiot, even when it's spelled out for you you play dumb.
>
> [deletia]
>
> Ubuntu codec management is what happens when you have a proper package
> manager. If Quicktime were doing this sort of thing, you would call it
> "integration".
A video player application that automatically goes looking for missing
codecs is something that isn't implied by the existence of system-level
package management (as demonstrated by the fact that there are Linux
media players that don't do this), and doesn't require system-level
package management to function (as demonstrated by the fact that, for
instance, RealPlayer does this on OS X).
Pretending these things are related was simply an excuse for you to
insert your pathological obsession into this thread.
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