XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: jedi@nomad.mishnet
On 2010-12-10, ZnU wrote:
> In article ,
> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>> On 2010-12-09, ZnU wrote:
>> > In article ,
>> > JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2010-12-09, ZnU wrote:
>> >> > In article ,
>> >> > JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 2010-12-08, ZnU wrote:
>> >> >> > In article ,
>> >> >> > JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On 2010-12-08, ZnU wrote:
>> >> >> >> > In article ,
>> >> >> >> > JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> On 2010-12-07, Justin wrote:
>> >> >> [deletia]
>> >> >> >> > Native OS X software rarely has external third-party
dependancies.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Yeah. Just the really important core stuff has those problems.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Meanwhile, *nix-style software can be installed via *nix-style
>> >> >> >> > package
>> >> >> >> > managers. Remind me again what the problem is supposed to be?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Quicktime.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Why do you play these stupid games? If you actually have some issue
>> >> >> > here, give enough detail that people can meaningfully reply.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have already. Multiple times.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The best you idiots could do is spout off about some Mac variant
>> >> >> of ffmpeg and leave it at that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Really the most effective way to deal with Quicktime's limitations
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> to install something that doesn't depend upon it at all like VLC or
>> >> >> Plex.
>> >> >
>> >> > I thought we were talking about dependency management. You're back to
>> >> > your pathological obsession with what video formats Apple provides out
>> >> > of the box support for.
>> >>
>> >> Of course I am.
>> >>
>> >> This is a classic use case for dependency management.
>> >>
>> >> It used to be something that Linux was bludgeoned over.
>> >>
>> >> Turnabout is foul play.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> The Ubuntu default video player also sorts out it's own plugins
>> >> >> quite
>> >> >> nicely when you stumble upon something it can't handle. It determines
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> it is missing, downloads that by itself, and then plays your file.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's nice. What does it have to do with anything?
>> >>
>> >> We're talking about package management here. Do try to keep up.
>> >
>> > We were, yes. You seem to be talking about some feature specific to a
>> > particular video player application, which as far as I can tell is
>> > entirely unrelated to the general discussion of package management into
>> > which you inserted it.
>>
>> Well of course "as far as you can tell".
>>
>> You're an idiot, even when it's spelled out for you you play dumb.
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
>> Ubuntu codec management is what happens when you have a proper package
>> manager. If Quicktime were doing this sort of thing, you would call it
>> "integration".
>
> A video player application that automatically goes looking for missing
> codecs is something that isn't implied by the existence of system-level
> package management (as demonstrated by the fact that there are Linux
> media players that don't do this), and doesn't require system-level
Yes. Let's all just re-invent the wheel n+1 times.
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