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   Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:   
   > amicus_curious pulled this Usenet face plant:   
   >   
   >> The crap that comes with a Linux distribution is hardly development   
   >> grade.   
      
   What, and the garbage that produced slopware like Vista is?   
      
   > Bullshit.   
      
   He must've been drinking the same "proprietary = better" Kool-Aid as   
   ZnU.   
      
   >> I would expect that anyone who wants to develop Linux stuff would at   
   >> the minimum download and install a suitable version of Eclipse.  You   
   >> don't seem to know very much about software development.   
   >   
   > Nor do you.  You'd shit your pants if someone said to you, "Here's vi,   
   > gdb, make, and gcc.  Now go code."   
      
   He's utterly, utterly clueless.   
      
   Eclipse is not the complete production system one needs to go from zero   
   to release using an automated workflow. It's just an IDE with plugins,   
   that one must use interactively, useful for those who like the "visual"   
   approach to programming, but quite useless for the sort of automated   
   workflow used in proper buildsystems.   
      
   Of course, the same is true of amateur slopware like Visual Studio.   
      
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   http://slated.org            | "The road to Hell is paved with   
   Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on sky   | ignorant twits who know nothing   
   kernel 2.6.31.5, up 10 days  | about GNU/Linux."   
      
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