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   Verily I say unto thee, that Tom Shelton spake thusly:   
   > on 12/22/2010, Homer supposed :   
      
   >> Eclipse is not the complete production system one needs to go from   
   >> zero to release using an automated workflow. It's just an IDE with   
   >> plugins, that one must use interactively, useful for those who like   
   >> the "visual" approach to programming, but quite useless for the sort   
   >> of automated workflow used in proper buildsystems.   
   >>   
   >> Of course, the same is true of amateur slopware like Visual Studio.   
   >   
   > LOL.. it appears to me that everyone in this entire thread is   
   > completely clueless about automated build systems on windows.   
   > Including whoever wrote the original quote.   
   >   
   > It is simply not true that it takes a lot of effort to setup an   
   > automated build system on windows, nor does it take a lot of money.   
   > It DOES take some knowledge - though, it's not that great a learning   
   > curve if you have any programming knowledge at all...   
   >   
   > I've setup several build servers - both at home and at work - and I've   
   > never spent a dime (well, beyond the cost of the actual windows   
   > system).   
   >   
   > svn+CC.NET+(msbuild and ant)+windows sdk+a little powershell   
      
   And this proves that Eclipse and Visual Studio are not useless as   
   automated buildsystems because...?   
      
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