XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: tom_shelton@comcast.invalid   
      
   Chris Ahlstrom presented the following explanation :   
   > Tom Shelton pulled this Usenet face plant:   
   >   
   >> chrisv explained on 12/23/2010 :   
   >>> Tom Shelton wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> It is not difficult or costly to setup a good software build   
   >>>> environment in windows.   
   >>>   
   >>> But not as easy as it is in Linux, which often comes with development   
   >>> tools by default!  From a geek's perspective, very cool.   
   >>   
   >> The fact that it might be slightly easier to setup a build environment   
   >> on linux does not make the original proposition:   
   >>   
   >>    
   >> Windows is a much more problematic environment for building software   
   >> than Linux.   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> Any less bogus.  Windows is not "much more problematic"...  The hardest   
   >> part of the process is knowing what tools you need and where to get   
   >> them.  And, I think most people who might be interested in this sort of   
   >> thing are not going to have too much trouble finding the answer.  Nor   
   >> does it take a "substantial amount of money or a substantial amount of   
   >> effort" - about the only part of that claim that is true is that it   
   >> does take some knowledge.  Whether it takes a substantial amount of   
   >> knowledge is debatable.   
   >   
   > One thing I don't like about Windows dev tools is how they inexorably push   
   > you towards Windows-only applications and towards the way of doing things   
   > the way Microsoft wants them done.   
   >   
      
   Chris, I in no way mean to insult you - but, that's just not true.  And   
   even if it were true - it doesn't make the original claim any less   
   bogus, because other then msbuild no part of my build tool chain is   
   from Microsoft.  And msbuild could easily be removed for ant or nant (I   
   already use ant for building our flex projects on windows).   
      
   > And the jargon!  The Microsoft jargon!  Delegates, boxing/unboxing, sealing,   
   > indexers, and so much more, hijacking well-known concepts from C++ and   
   > replacing them with different terms, mostly just to be *different*, it seems.   
      
   No one is forcing you to use .NET (well, unless your targeting the   
   xbox360 or wp7) - all of thse terms are specific to .NET.  C++ is still   
   there...  Remember?  One of the projects I build is a cross platform   
   app server written in C++?   
      
   --   
   Tom Shelton   
      
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