XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: jedi@nomad.mishnet   
      
   On 2010-12-24, Tom Shelton  wrote:   
   > JEDIDIAH used his keyboard to write :   
   >> On 2010-12-23, Tom Shelton  wrote:   
   >>> chrisv explained on 12/23/2010 :   
   >>>> Tom Shelton wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> It is not difficult or costly to setup a good software build   
   >>>>> environment in windows.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But not as easy as it is in Linux, which often comes with development   
   >>>> tools by default!  From a geek's perspective, very cool.   
   >>>   
   >>> The fact that it might be slightly easier to setup a build environment   
   >>> on linux does not make the original proposition:   
   >>>   
   >>>    
   >>> Windows is a much more problematic environment for building software   
   >>> than Linux.   
   >>>    
   >>>   
   >>> Any less bogus.  Windows is not "much more problematic"...  The hardest   
   >>   
   >>     Sure it is.   
   >>   
   >>     A Granny can install a single package from the Ubuntu repository.   
   >>   
   >>     Let's see a Granny setup a build system on Windows.   
   >>   
   >   
   > I've never heard of a granny that would want to setup a builds system   
   > on windows - unless she is a developer or a build manager.  The fact   
   > that you would even suggest that a normal granny would even consider   
   > doing such a thing is completely laughable.   
   >   
   > The only reason linux systems come with build tools, is that it has   
   > been the common for software in the *nix world to be distributed in the   
   > form of source code - that is not the case on windows systems, and is   
      
       Yes. Unix software is cross platform.   
      
       It has been written and distributed that way since before Linux came   
   around and it wasn't just limited to GNU. So you could have a single   
   "installer" that covered every major commercial Unix and possibly even VMS   
   too.   
      
        It's like Java but without the performance hit.   
      
        ...and it's not likely it's a terribly complicated thing either.   
      
        A well constructed source tarball is no more difficult to use than a   
   properly constructed InstallShield script. You are dependent on the   
   diligence of the developer either way.   
      
   > likely to never be the case.  In the windows world, the only people   
   > that care about building code are geeks and developers.   
      
        Yes. It's it's a self perpetuating cycle of very limited development   
   and platform support.   
      
        That doesn't alter the fact that Granny can install a Linux dev   
   environment but can't do the same for Windows.   
      
        Call it  nice side effect of the "difficult" way that Linux software   
   installation works.   
      
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